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08-29-2006 08:06:38




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been looking at generator around 8ooo watts,lots of choices out there.Some cheap(maybe too cheap)and some outragous.Just need one for back up and to run some light tools once in awhile.Anyone got something they are happy with.




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Stan in Oly, WA

08-30-2006 10:41:23




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 Re: gas generators in reply to you, 08-29-2006 08:06:38  
Hi again,

Here's an example of what I was talking about earlier. Go to the eBay home page and paste this number in the Search box: 300022578769

I know that pipeline welders are expected to run all day long, every day. What I don't know is if any experienced operator would use this machine for that work.

I don't know if this horse is dead but I'll stop beating it in any case.

Stan



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jdemaris

08-29-2006 20:06:26




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 Re: gas generators in reply to you, 08-29-2006 08:06:38  
Some of the cheap Chinese generators are fine if you only want it for occasional use. Most big name generators, e.g. Honda and Yamaha are made in China - but with high-end specs. Some of these Chinese companies are getting pretty good at making and selling clones. I've got several - and they're well worth the money at 1/2 to 1/3 the price of their US counterparts. Now, if quality electricity, or overall durability, or low noise all appeal to you - then that's a whole different story. Most portable AC generators do not put out perfect 60 cycle power. They will work fine with 95% of things, but will NOT run certain items properly, especially battery chargers. Also, an AC generator has to run full speed to make power and come close to 60 cycles. Some better ones can idle down when there is no demand for power - but still have to rev up to full RPM regardless of how small the demand. The DC generators work a lot nicer - and only have to run fast enough to meet the demand. That's what the high-end Hondas and Yamahas are. They use a DC generator head that can make power at any speed, and it gets run through a full-wave inverter. Also - a note about some "brand-name" generators. I have a neighbor that bought a new Guardian standy generator from Home Depot - 10 or 12,000 watt. It crapped out after two months and they won't honor the warranty. This guy's house is solar-electric hybrid, and the generator is there to charge batteries during periods of rain/no sun. Winds up, in the small print, the warranty is void if your home is "off grid." Put in plain English, it seems the warranty is void if you dare use the thing.

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Stan in Oly, WA

08-29-2006 17:15:03




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 Re: gas generators in reply to you, 08-29-2006 08:06:38  
Hi you,

I'm surprised buickanddeere didn't suggest this because, if I remember correctly, he's the one who brought it to my attention awhile back: consider getting a generator welder rather than just a generator. They're in about the same price and quality range but you also get... a welder. Even if you don't weld now (you should learn) you would have trouble persuading me of the advantage of not getting something valuable which is essentially free.

All the best, Stan

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buickanddeere

08-29-2006 19:48:26




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 Re: gas generators in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 08-29-2006 17:15:03  
Stan

What was I thinking. >Link

>Link And as an IBEW Electrician. My favorite rant about those scarey people with just enough knowledge to be dangerous. No!!! It is not OK to shut the main breaker off and back-feed the building from a generator through a welder, dryer or stove receptacle. Get a transfer panel from FPE, Reliance Control or a switched meter base from Ronk.

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Tim Casbolt

08-29-2006 16:58:31




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 Re: gas generators in reply to you, 08-29-2006 08:06:38  
I like Onan generators. Especially propane powered. Propane can sit in the tank for years and not get stale. Got a 4000w in the car hauler and a 22kw that's running the whole house. Power went out due to a storm about an hour ago. Delmarva says it could be a few hours. Kind of cool to look down my street and see I'm the only house with lights.



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buickanddeere

08-29-2006 14:59:07




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 Re: gas generators in reply to you, 08-29-2006 08:06:38  
A generator for a construction site to run 40 hrs per week? A generator for a boat/cottage/motor home? Or a generator to use every year or two for a day when the power goes out? LP, natural gas, gasoline or diesel?



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Yugrotcart

08-29-2006 14:56:37




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 Re: gas generators in reply to you, 08-29-2006 08:06:38  
Honda is the way to go. Friend has a rental business, that's all he rents.



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Don L C

08-29-2006 13:41:33




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 Re: gas generators in reply to you, 08-29-2006 08:06:38  
Check at your local SAMS store.....i was in ours yesterday and they had several sizes.....i looked at one --3200 watt with Honda engine for around 6 -- 7 hundred dollars.....i think a Honda engine is a big plus.....good luck don...

I have a 3000 watt Honda generator, but on sale,i paid around #1700....



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souNdguy

08-29-2006 10:08:37




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 Re: gas generators in reply to you, 08-29-2006 08:06:38  
My wife says I'm a pretty good gas generator.

Ok.. electricity.. I have a northern tool 12.5kw genny head that i run off a tractor pto. They sell a 7kw or 8kw head too.

I just didn't want one more small engine to care for. It's all i can do to keep my weed eater, and rider-lawnmowr running year to year after setting up each winter..

Soundguy



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