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Salvaging a crankshaft

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Areo

08-25-2006 20:26:34




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Does anyone have any hints as to how to remove the "welded on aluminum" from a crankshaft journal? I picked up an engine that had a seized connecting rod.

Areo




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KEB

08-26-2006 07:56:45




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 Re: Salvaging a crankshaft in reply to Areo, 08-25-2006 20:26:34  
Hi, I'd suspect what's on the crank is probably babbit metal out of the bearing insert rather than aluminum.

Unless you have a way of checking the journal for out-of-round and taper, I'd strongly recommend taking it to a machine shop & letting them take care of it. There's a good possiblity you'll have to have that journal re-ground & put in new corresonding undersize bearing inserts.

You can try the crocus cloth idea if this isn't a real critical application. I've had some success cleaning up minor scratches on bearing journals with the stuff. Just make certain you plasti-gage the bearing when you put it back together, as its real easy to end up with an out-of-round journal.

In my opinion, unless its a junk motor to start with, the little bit of $$$ you'll have to spend to have a machine shop regrind the journal is cheap insurance against having problems when you put it back together.

Keith

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KEB

08-26-2006 07:55:16




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 Re: Salvaging a crankshaft in reply to Areo, 08-25-2006 20:26:34  
Hi, I'd suspect what's on the crank is probably babbit metal out of the bearing insert rather than aluminum.

Unless you have a way of checking the journal for out-of-round and taper, I'd strongly recommend taking it to a machine shop & letting them take care of it. There's a good possiblity you'll have to have that journal re-ground & put in new corresonding undersize bearing inserts.

You can try the crocus cloth idea if this isn't a real critical application. I've had some success cleaning up minor scratches on bearing journals with the stuff. Just make certain you plasti-gage the bearing when you put it back together, as its real easy to end up with an out-of-round journal.

In my opinion, unless its a junk motor to start with, the little bit of $$$ you'll have to spend to have a machine shop regrind the journal is cheap insurance against having problems when you put it back together.

Keith

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Areo

08-26-2006 07:33:25




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 Re: Salvaging a crankshaft in reply to Areo, 08-25-2006 20:26:34  
Thanks guys. Now that you mentioned it I did remember having an experience where lye corroded aluminum.

Areo



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benny2

08-26-2006 07:19:33




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 You can do this Re: Salvaging a crankshaft in reply to Areo, 08-25-2006 20:26:34  
Take it to a auto machine shop that has a HOT TANK they use the lye already mentioned erlier, an over nite dip will eat off all non ferious metal. If this al alloy on it, means it is some sort of little engine. Most of those can be home polished with crocas cloth for finish.



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J Schwiebert

08-26-2006 06:06:18




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 Re: Salvaging a crankshaft in reply to Areo, 08-25-2006 20:26:34  
If this is a crank out of diesel you will also need to have the shaft Rockwell tested. Heat will take the harness out of the a diesel crank and many turn out to be JUNK.



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BigMarv1085

08-25-2006 22:53:19




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 Re: Salvaging a crankshaft in reply to Areo, 08-25-2006 20:26:34  
I would take it to a automotive machine shop and let them take a look at it. If that engine got hot enough to melt aluminum to the crank, the crank probably needs polishing or turning anyway.



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jmixigo

08-25-2006 21:17:26




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 Re: Salvaging a crankshaft in reply to Areo, 08-25-2006 20:26:34  
Most automotive machine shops have a bath they dunk em in and the solution eats off the nonferrous metal. Cleans em up nice.



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Bob

08-25-2006 21:54:22




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 Re: Salvaging a crankshaft in reply to jmixigo, 08-25-2006 21:17:26  
An old mechanic's trick (which I have have never tried) is to use sodium hydroxide (lye) to eat the aluminum off of a crankshaft journal, with minimum damage to the crank.

This ties in with what jmixigo posted, because traditional hot-tank solutions contain caustic soda.

From Wikepedia:

"Sodium hydroxide does not attack iron or copper, but many other metals such as aluminium, zinc and titanium are attacked rapidly. In 1986 an aluminium road tanker in the UK was mistakenly used to transport 25% sodium hydroxide solution, causing pressurisation of the contents and damage to the tanker. For this same reason aluminium pans should never be cleaned with lye.

2Al(s) + 6NaOH(aq) �� 3H2(g) + 2Na3AlO3(aq)"

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jack12345

08-25-2006 21:01:31




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 Re: Salvaging a crankshaft in reply to Areo, 08-25-2006 20:26:34  
Is the crank still in specs? If it is you can have it polished at a crankshaft shop for about $25-35. I've also heard of useing crocus cloth, but if its important take it to a shop.



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