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Dick2

08-20-2006 08:13:22

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Who has installed steel roofing on their house? I'm getting tired of the micro-bursts lifting shingle flaps and bending them over.

Local contractor says the steel sheets can go on right over the shingles. Somehow that idea doesn't appeal to me. How difficult is putting on a steel roof for a Do-It-Yourselfer? My wife has a fit if I talk about doing it myself; afraid I'll fall off of the roof.

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T_Bone

08-22-2006 05:51:09

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Re: Steel roofing questions. in reply to Dick2, 08-20-2006 08:13:22

Hi Dick,

Metal roofs down where we live need to be installed during May or June to allow for thermal expansion. Boy what a misserable job during that time of year as the metal and tools are very hot by 10am.

As long as you use a slip sheet under the metal, #30 felt, I don't see why the shingles would be have be removed.

Unless you have a huge roof, for about the $2000 install labor that it costs, I don't think is worth saving, and I'm a sheet metal worker by trade, but my weight and age says this job needs farmed out for me.

T_Bone

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cj3b_jeep

08-21-2006 06:30:48

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Re: Steel roofing questions. in reply to Dick2, 08-20-2006 08:13:22

I have one on our new house we build three years ago and love it, we have lots of hips, valleys and such to contend with. We used the standing seam type that goes on with clips and the panels interlock. I love it and it is not any noisier than any other type of roofing. It is slick and hard to stand on if you get anything over an 8/12 pitch or so. Also, rain and snow come off it much wuicker than normal, so if you have doors right under the main roof, I'd also think about snow dams depending on where you live.

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BobReeves

08-21-2006 04:53:08

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Re: Steel roofing questions. in reply to Dick2, 08-20-2006 08:13:22

Only bad thing I have heard about installing metal over old shingles is if you have a fire. No way to fight a fire in the shingles.

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fred kobs

08-21-2006 03:23:31

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Re: Steel roofing questions. in reply to Dick2, 08-20-2006 08:13:22

I've seen it done over old shingles and tear-off. My opinion was the old shingles buffered the sound. Wasn't terrible in the tear-off, but I think it was quieter in the old shingles. Therse were under-insulated rental houses. My 2$. fred

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Stan in Oly, WA

08-20-2006 22:09:36

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Re: Steel roofing questions. in reply to Dick2, 08-20-2006 08:13:22

Hi Dick,

About six years ago I put metal roofing on a small summer place we own. The job was hard work because I had to tear off cedar shakes which had been attached to the solid shiplap sheathing with 6d hot-dipped galvanized nails (someone had gone to considerable effort to do that job completely wrong.) I thought the metal roofing was much easier to install than 3-tab, but the roof was probably too simple to provide a fair test. It was a straight gable roof with no valleys, and only a chimney and two or three vent pipes to contend with. The slope was about 45 degrees, which is the most I'll walk around on. I carpentered some kind of simple rig on the end of one section of an extension ladder so that it hooked over the ridge and I could work from it with it flat against the sheathing. The job went well and I enjoyed doing it. It helps to be young to do that kind of work, but that wasn't an option.

All the best, Stan

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mjbrown

08-20-2006 13:10:16

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Re: Steel roofing questions. in reply to Dick2, 08-20-2006 08:13:22

Dick;
I did that for the same reason. I had a contractor do it because I was afraid I would slip and fall off the roof. My roof is close to 45 degrees about 10/12, Yikes! They screwed 2x4's laid flat on 2' centers through the old shingles into the rafters will big long screws then screwed the metal sheets to the 2x4's. I have cross gables so there was a lot of cutting required. They used mastic tape sealer at the sheet overlaps. I used a contrasting color for the ridges and valleys for eye appeal. The contractor used a scissor lift at the eve so anyone sliding off would land on the lift instead of the ground.

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CBBC

08-20-2006 11:49:42

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Re: Steel roofing questions. in reply to Dick2, 08-20-2006 08:13:22

Yes you can go over shingles, but if you have the time it probably is better to take them off.

I just did my house roof 98' X 30' with 5:12 pitch over the shingles. Measure lots to keep in alignment. Don't over tighten the screws. Make sure the screws are large enough to go through the shingles and sheeting. Put in a ridge vent and make sure the soffets are open!!! Venting is very important for an atic space.
Grant

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dave in tenn

08-20-2006 08:57:09

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Re: Steel roofing questions. in reply to Dick2, 08-20-2006 08:13:22

Yes netal roofing can go over shingles. Make sure you line the panels up well and always start at the bottom. Make sure you do not over tighten the neoprene screws. You may have to do some serious reachin cause metal roofs can be slippery if wet and or too steep. good luck and hope you are careful

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