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egon

08-18-2006 04:43:51




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My parents are selling their farm, what type of tax will they be subject to? Little info, owned for 40 years and filed farm taxes.




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egon

08-19-2006 05:05:21




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 Re: farm taxes in reply to egon, 08-18-2006 04:43:51  
Thank you all for the info. Mom and Dad have an appointment to see a tax lawyer but just wanted to have a heads up before they went so they would know whether the lawyer new what he was talking about.



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bh

08-20-2006 19:25:56




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 Hope you get some good advice in reply to egon, 08-19-2006 05:05:21  
You can post back with the attorney"s suggestions if you want feedback on those. Billy in TN



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Dave Sherburne NY

08-18-2006 14:25:32




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 Re: farm taxes in reply to egon, 08-18-2006 04:43:51  
The Farm probrobly has a house on it which is your
parents principal residence which is eligible for the exemption, $500,000 or whatever it is right now.
So, The house is probrobly in excellent shape, and worth whatever the exemption is while the barn
is probrobly falling down, and the land is worn out
so not worth much. See your tax man. Your parents
will set the values on their principle residence,
and on the rest of the farm. Set the house very high.

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Stan in Oly, WA

08-18-2006 08:03:16




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 Re: farm taxes in reply to egon, 08-18-2006 04:43:51  
Hi egon,

The advice for your parents to see a good tax advisor is right. If it were simply their primary residence, the first $500,000 of capital gain (amount above the original purchase price, to put it too simply) would be tax free to them under the circumstances you describe. The farm being a business as well as their primary residence is what complicates the matter.

For what it's worth, people over 50 who have run a farm are generally smart enough and well educated enough to read and understand tax law, but they rarely believe that they can. The trick is to read the material (available at any IRS office, or by mail, or online) five or six times, call the IRS help line and talk to someone about it (they're almost always very helpful, and usually very nice) and repeat as necessary. In one day a person can become well informed about a particular tax issue. And guess what? The proportion of tax advisors, including CPA's and tax lawyers, who are complete fools is just as high as in any other occupation. They just get a lot more per hour for their bad advice than working class fools.

All the best, Stan

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bh

08-18-2006 11:03:28




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 Re: farm taxes in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 08-18-2006 08:03:16  
As I said it easily get's more compicated than first thought. The $500,000 exclusion on the personal residence is a very good point and I wish I'd thought about that before I took 2 minutes and responded. Gotta respectfully disagree with the same proportion of fools in every occupation though. Definitely some bad ones out there but the exam required for a CPA does rule out a fair portion. 2 and 1/2 days and 40% essay questions (when I took the exam 16 years ago)is pretty tough. First time pass rate at that time was less than 10%. Of course I'm a CPA so you might say I'm just biased. :-)

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Stan in Oly, WA

08-18-2006 12:59:39




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 Re: farm taxes in reply to bh, 08-18-2006 11:03:28  
Hi bh,

Best I can tell, being a fool has nothing to do with intelligence or education. If the difficulty of achieving a position was what weeded out fools, then we should never have had a president, or even a senator, who was a fool. If you think we haven't then you couldn't have passed the CPA exam 16 years ago because you must have been born yesterday. I'm a CPA, too. I'll stand by what I said.

Neither cynic nor Pollyanna, Stan Lewis

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bh

08-18-2006 04:56:19




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 Re: farm taxes in reply to egon, 08-18-2006 04:43:51  
Obviously there could be more to this, please consult a knowledgeable tax advisor. Most likely result is 15% capital gain tax on the difference between the purchase price (assuming the land was purchased) and sales price. If things are sold (buildings, bins, etc.) that have been depreciated there'll be taxes to be paid on the depreciation that was taken as well. Once again, please consult a tax advisor.

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