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DRILL CHUCKS, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM?

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Ken McWilliams

03-19-2001 09:56:16




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It seems that any hand drill that I've bought in the last 20 years has a lousy grip on things or perhaps it's a Sears/Craftsman problem.

I have a 3/8" & 1/2" 120VAC that I've broken several of the gear teeth off using a hammer on the chuck key to grip the bits tight enough.

My most recent drill is a 14.4 cordless with a keyless chuck that I can't tighten enough. I'm using channel locks to hold the "keyless" chuck to put the extra squeeze on the bits.

The chucks that I use on my Bridgeport mill and lathe tailstock don't seem to have this problem. Although, they're large chucks and comparitively large chuck keys.

These are not large diameter bits with reduced shank diameters, but standard straight bits that I'm referring to. I have several large bits that are large diameter with reduced shanks and I expect problems with them.

Several years ago, I was doing a job and bought a 11/16" Cleveland bit that had a 1/2" shank. It had flats on the shank at 120 degrees apart. I love this bit, but it's not always the right size for obvious reasons. It never spins in the chuck, but rather takes me for a spin if I have in my heavy duty drill with the 18" pipe extension levers.

Can sets of drill bits be purchase that already have the flats on them?

Do the rest of you have this annoying problem with the bits spinning in the chucks?

If I had the time, I'd but all my bits in my 5C collet spin jig and grind flats on all of them with my surface grinder at 120 degrees apart.

Just wunderin,

Ken McWilliams

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Nathan Meredith

04-20-2002 21:17:27




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 Re: DRILL CHUCKS, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM? in reply to Ken McWilliams, 03-19-2001 09:56:16  
Try buying a Rhom chuck. DeWalt uses them on thier hammer drills



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John in Abq

03-21-2001 11:23:26




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 Re: DRILL CHUCKS, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM? in reply to Ken McWilliams, 03-19-2001 09:56:16  
A trick that I have used for years is to dip the end of the drill bit in powdered rosin. Then if you tighten the chuck in all 3 holes, the bits seldom slip.

HTH John



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chuck

03-19-2001 22:58:51




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 Re: DRILL CHUCKS, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM? in reply to Ken McWilliams, 03-19-2001 09:56:16  
On sum of the bigger drills I have welded a gob of weld on the shank of the drill and put the weld between the jaws and it never slipped but I have broke a lot of drills this way I suppose you could do this on smaller drills to



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Joe Evans

03-19-2001 20:42:02




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 Re: DRILL CHUCKS, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM? in reply to Ken McWilliams, 03-19-2001 09:56:16  
Yes, I have this problem. Better chucks yield better bit holding performance. Drill bits with flats on the shank are call Silver & Deming pattern.



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JTom

03-19-2001 17:13:17




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 Re: DRILL CHUCKS, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM? in reply to Ken McWilliams, 03-19-2001 09:56:16  
The more money you spend on a chuck the less you will have this problem. You may not eliminate it but you will reduce it with a good chuck. It might cost more than the price of a less than top of theline drill, $40 to $60 or someting like that. As someone mentioned, using all three holes and going around the chuck with the key will help too.



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walt

03-19-2001 16:11:19




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 Re: DRILL CHUCKS, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM? in reply to Ken McWilliams, 03-19-2001 09:56:16  
If I plan on drilling metal, then I grind flat spots on my bits with bench grinder..



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Shawn

03-19-2001 15:27:49




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 Re: DRILL CHUCKS, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM? in reply to Ken McWilliams, 03-19-2001 09:56:16  
John has a very good idea it works great tighting all three holes, however snap on has a set of colbolt(sp?) bits that are really hard and have the flat spots on them, dont know how much they cost but mine are worth whatever they cost, i love mines, however i have the 5/16 and 3/8 bits wore out, thats my most popular
good luck
Shawn



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John Ne.

03-19-2001 10:14:57




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 Re: DRILL CHUCKS, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM? in reply to Ken McWilliams, 03-19-2001 09:56:16  
Seen this problem before, cheaper chucks don't hold as well, and wear out faster, ONE TIP: insert the chuck key and tight in all THREE holes. Work around the chuck tightening as you go, seems to tighten up better. Once a drill shank starts spinning in a chuck,, its time for a new chuck, easier on the blood pressure that way. John



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