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Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question]

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Buzzman72

08-17-2006 08:15:15




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I'm finally getting to work on the project trailer frame and running gear I have, and I've already encountered a problem. The frame and running gear are from a 1948 mobile home, which was the equivalent of a modern camper trailer, and this was a 28' mobile home, which gives me a 26' frame. It's a tandem-axle trailer with electric brakes on the rear axle, and automotive-style wheels.

The trailer sat in a barn lot for a number of years, and the tires are split and rotted pretty badly [to deliver the thing to my house, we loaded this trailer frame on a car-hauler trailer with a winch, and unloaded the same way].

So, in order to make the trailer somewhat mobile in my driveway, I'm trying to deal with replacing the rotted tires. Since the front axle has bare hubs, I figured this would be the place to begin with the WD-40...since I could see the back of the lug bolts as well as the front. So after spraying liberally and walking away for a couple of weeks, yesterday I got out the electric impact--I don't have an air compressor--and impact socket, and started turning the lug bolts about 1/8 of a turn at a time until I got them all out without snapping any off. [I know I can get replacement lug bolts at Tractor Supply, so I plan to do so when I replace the wheels.]

I got out my handy-dandy wheel bolt circle gauge, and determined that the wheels are a 5 on 5-1/2" pattern. So I went to a friend's house, and asked him if he had any spare wheels and tires off his old Ford 4x4. He had one, and I took it back home for a test fit.

Well, the bolt pattern was correct, but the center hole was too small. Turns out his center hole is 3-3/8" in diameter, and the wheels that came off the trailer have a 4" center hole.

So...since I'm looking to replace the wheels and tires [rather than removing the junk tires and tubes, cleaning the rims and having them powdercoated, as they should be these days, in the mounting surfaces], does anyone know what vehicle used a 15" wheel with a 5-on 5-1/2" bolt circle, with a 4" center hole? I have an old Glenn Mitchell Interchange Manual from the late '60's, but its wheel specs don't mention center hole size.

Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated.

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`Bernie in MA

08-18-2006 17:21:36




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 08:15:15  
I enlarged some wheel centerholes once with a holesaw. First I used a saw that would make a slug the size of the original hole. I then tack-welded the slug into the hole, which gave me a centerhole for the saw to make the hole the size I wanted. I ground off the tacks so I could use the slug on the next wheel. HTH



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T_Bone

08-18-2006 00:00:34




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 08:15:15  
Hi Buzzman,

I just looked up implement wheels for Paul in a thread above:

diameter/width/bolt circle/center hole
15/3/4.5/--
15/5/5.5/4
15/6/5.5/4
15/8/5.5/4

See if that helps you.

T_Bone



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sjh

08-17-2006 18:50:12




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 08:15:15  
Those are commonly referred as the "big ford pattern".



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Ron in Nebr

08-17-2006 11:37:35




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 08:15:15  
If you shop around, you can most likely find some aftermarket white spoke wheels that'll work for under $40 each. Check out summit racing's website.

Might be cheaper in the long run to just buy new rather than spend time and fuel searching junkyards, then cleaning and painting(or powdercoating) old wheels.



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Ralph - Ohio

08-17-2006 10:18:59




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 08:15:15  
I think my son used to have some Jeep wheels on his Ford truck and they had larger center holes than the Ford wheels.



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Bus Driver

08-17-2006 09:48:46




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 08:15:15  
Check Miller Tire for the wheels. Eventually your old wheels may begin to look more like a viable option.



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old

08-17-2006 09:13:33




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 08:15:15  
BTDT and yes theres stock ford or some other brand wheels made that will fit them but I don't know what brand they where that I use. Also some of the spoke wheels are like that but will cost more. I'd go to a junk yard and have a look see they will probably have some. I've also done the torch thing but I don't like doing that

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Ford 312

08-17-2006 08:56:43




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 08:15:15  
You might check a later International Pick-up or Scout wheel. They used the 5 bolt 5 1/2" pattern started around 1967. I am not sure what the center hole diameter would be, though.



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806man

08-17-2006 08:29:21




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 08:15:15  
I had the same situation a few years back. Ford wheels are too small in the middle. A torch with a delicate touch will fix your problem the cheapest way out or you can use an aftermarket white spoke wheel and it will have the 4" center opening.



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Buzzman72

08-17-2006 12:04:18




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to 806man, 08-17-2006 08:29:21  
Thanks for all the help. After searching Summit Racing's website, I came back here and saw Ron's post. At Summit, I can get the Cragar Black Soft 8 black-spoke wheel, part number CRR-3975755, 15x7, 5 lugs on 5.5" bolt circle, 4" backspace, 4.280 center bore, for $35.95 a wheel...or I can get the Cragar Nomad I white spoke, same specs except the backspace is 3.75 and no mention of the center bore size, for $29.95 a wheel. I can call Summit's 800 number and have them confirm the center hole size.

I think in the long haul, that'll be cheaper than doing the junkyard search...unless I can find a set of older Jeep CJ wheels and tires for a song in this week's local Bargain Mart auto trader-style paper.

Again, thanks for all the helpful advice.

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Ron in Nebr

08-18-2006 00:08:45




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 Re: Trailer Wheels [long post, simple question] in reply to Buzzman72, 08-17-2006 12:04:18  
Wow! I actually made a usefull post! Haha!

Seriously though, since it sounds like you already knew about Summitt's website you might already be experienced with them. For those of you who aren't(and I'm just a satisfied customer), be sure to check them out for any aftermarket anything you might need. I'm in western Nebraska and they're in Ohio and I can call and order something and have it usually within 3 working days max....great company, great service.

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