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oliver power

07-30-2006 18:16:40




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Would you pay the price for a Harlet Davidson , or would you buy a Jap look alike for 1/2 the money?




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Davis In SC

08-01-2006 20:54:14




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
A friend bought a new Honda a few months ago. It is a 1300CC, looks like a Harley, not sure of the name or model. He gave $7,200.00 for it, it was a new 2005 model. He seems real happy with it. It looks like a lot of bike for what he gave for it. The sticker on it says made by Honda of America, so I assume it was made in Ohio...



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Johnski

08-01-2006 16:13:08




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
How about the deal behind door #3? What's that Monty, Yes it's a brand new Triumph. Check 'em out at your local dealer or online. I bought a 2003 Bonneville America cruiser and love it. They have bikes for all tastes from the Rocket III, Jay Leno has one, to a classic bonneville that looks like it came right out of the 70's. If your serious about buying a bike then do yourself a favor and check them out. Besides it really pi$$es off my H-D riding buddies when people walk right by them to ckeck out my bike. ;>) Jf

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Robert in W. Mi.

07-31-2006 17:11:29




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
I wonder how many here saying "buy a Harley because they have great resale" Also have said here.... "Who care's if an old John Deere has a better resale"?....

I've owned one or more of each, Honda, Harley, Yamaha, Suzuki, BMW, and a few others.. And there's NO WAY i'd buy another Harley today for dailey transportation....

I don't buy a "user" tractor for resale, and i wouldn't pay more for a "user" motorcycle because of resale either!!

Hard to beat a Honda motorcycle for reliability....

Robert

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dhermesc

07-31-2006 13:18:53




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle - Long Term? in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
For the past 20 years the answer would probably be Harley - even though the "Jap" bikes were probably better riders.

The resale on Harleys HAS been like money in the bank, but I see that changing in the next couple years. Look in your newspaper - if its anything like mine there are as many Harleys for sale as the rest of the brands put together. Then when you look closer at the adds its not uncommon to find a lot of late 90s models to bikes just a year old with only a couple thousand miles (or less) on them. To many RUBs love the idea of owning and riding a big bike but once they have it they find that cycling isn't for them. To hot, to cold, bugs are bad at night, the golf course calls or $3.00 a gallon gas takes the pleasure out of riding. Three years later they realized they have $12-$15,000 sitting in their garage that they don't ride more then a couple times a year.

When they bought the bike the salesman told them they could ride it 10 ears and still get new price out of it. Now that its for sale if they don't get aksing price they have the cash to let it sit instead of eating a car like depreciation loss. In a couple years the Yuppies get older the bike is still sitting there. The market looks ripe for an "adjustment" in the near future.

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n9lhm

07-31-2006 07:39:30




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
Buy a BMW. They are quiet, smooth, and inherently more stable because of the lower, wider center of gravity, instead of having the weight of the cylinders and heads -- and the heat -- between your knees. The next time you stop at a stop light next to a Harley and watch the rider stand up on his feet to allow his bike to jump up and down 1" every time a cylinder fires, ask yourself how comfortable that is. My neighbor has a Harley and every time he sees me riding my beemer he laments that he should have bought a BMW -- but his friends told him that he "had" to have a Harley. It"s all marketing. IMHO. Brian

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jim in N M

07-31-2006 07:18:01




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
Hi Oliver, Yes you can buy a Jap bike for 1/2, but if you like HD like I do, you'll always be going down the highway thinking "Now thats what I should be rideing" Don't get me wrong,but there are some good (Other) bikes out there.I've had some of those. But a HD is a HD. just my .02cents worth. Jim in N M Ps,Want to buy a 1998 Dyna wide glide? Jim in N M



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Chuck UR

07-31-2006 04:34:35




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 Would you rather have a Toyota Camry or a Hot Rod in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
If you just want to push a button and ride go for the Hon/Yam/Suz/Kaw.
If you like to tinker, customize and rebuild buy a Harley (or Tri)
I built my first 'Harley' clone in '97 from parts on Ebay, swapmeets & catalogs. I've redone it 3-4 times the only remaing original parts are the frame and trans. The HD aftermarket industry is huge !
If you're a builder (assembler) buy a used Shovelhead -$5K-$6K and make it yours.

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Glenn FitzGerald

07-31-2006 03:23:23




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
People can rip on the Harleys all they want, but their fantastic resale speaks for itself. Actually, much as I like the Harleys, they are getting too common. I don't have one, but will someday. I have a nice/original 1970 Triumph. It doesn't matter what Jap bike is in my shop parked beside the Triumph, when people walk in, they say NOTHING about the Jap bike and immediately begin asking about the Triumph.

I don't like "belly button" bikes.

Glenn F.

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farmallbee

07-31-2006 03:02:35




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
buy a honda you will not regret it.



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Roy Suomi

07-30-2006 21:53:59




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
I got rid of my Guzzi years ago when some old lady pulled out in front of me at 55 mph..I will get another cycle when more people are riding not driving..I bought the Guzzi over protests from my buddies..Turns out it was a better scooter for touring than their Harleys were..Smoother running , smoother ride , reliable , down side was parts availability..



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Mark - IN.

07-30-2006 20:56:40




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
Funny you should ask. My '79 Shovel has an "H" in the serial number, which means that it was "MADE" in Milwaukee, sporting a Pan's Hydroglide front end that I liked better than the orginal. One day me and some buddies are out on the scooters, my Shovel, a buddy on his 883 Sporty Piglett, another on a Pan, and some other buddies on their made in the USA (Ohio) Honda V-twins. So, we ride into secret hideout No. 2 (a tavern the wives or girlfriends don't know about, or to call looking for...whomever), and there's all these new shiney Evo Big-Twin Harleys and there owners with their brand spankin' new and polished Harley belts, belt buckles, boots, and probably g-string undies too (I'd bet). So, we get off the scooters and go to walk in and they start scoffing out loud at the buddies made in the USA Hondas, so I ask "Say what?", and get an earful about the supposed rice burner wanna be V-twins. Hmmmmm ???? Maybe I should've kept my mouth shut, but I just couldn't let that go, and pointed out that my buddy's Piglett (883 Sporty) was made in the USA, our buddies Hondas were made in the USA, then looked around and announced that I and our other buddy's Pan were the only Big-Twin Harleys out in that whole stinkin parking lot that were made in the USA. And to prove it, I walked one of the big mouth wanna be bikers over and showed him the "H" in our serial numbers (Milwaukee), then walked him over to the scooter that he proclaimed as his, and showed him the "J" in his serial number that stood for manufactured in the land of the rising sun (Japan). Then I had to point out that my buddies made in the USA cost 1/3rd of those rice burners that he in his buddies and their old ladies were riding, just so they could have the word "Harley" emblazoned on them, their belt buckles, under garments, and baby's diapers. All would've been ok if they hadn't been a$$holes, but they wanted to be a$$holes, and were, and I had no problem showing them as much. Manufactured in Japan, painted in Pittsburg, assembled in Milwaukee. That was a couple of few years ago, and some are now made in Brazil as well. You won't find the word Harley anywhere on my scooter, its stroker only starts by kicker, and I aint gotta prove nothing to anyone with it, especially some designer wanna be biker that probably wears a pink thong under his new leathers. Pick yourself up a copy of "Walnek's Cycle Trader", or vistit it online, and piece meal yourself one...could be a WLA, UL, even a Indian Chief. Costs far less, and you'll respect it more and have more pride in it that way...just like an old tractor.

Personally, I could give a rats a$$ what anyone rides, so long as they enjoy themselves, and watch out for them automobiles, the drivers don't watch out for scooter riders. It's your money, your scooter, do what you want and can, if you so choose.

I will give them Evos that they don't break as much as mine, nor do they drip oil...but if mine didn't drip oil (mark its territory), how would my buddies know that I thought enough of them to stop over to visit when they aint home?

Mark

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dr.sportster

07-31-2006 13:26:43




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Mark - IN., 07-30-2006 20:56:40  
What?J in the serial number "made in Japan" All motors are made at the Capitol Drive plant in Mliwaukee,always have been,still are.Assembly plant is York Pa.As of some time in the ninties Sportster line is made in Kansas at a new ergonomic facility.All Harley-Davidsons are assembled by U.A.W. members it is the only unionized motorcycle manufacturer.No harley was ever made overseas.Plans for a panhead were sold to the Japanese once and the machine was called a Rikou.The Japanese never paid Harley for the rights as agreed.These machines are very rare collectors items now.Harley Davidson was owned by AMF from 1969 to 1980 althuogh 1969 models are considered all early motor company due to the time of year the deal occured.As of 1970 the tanks sported the AMF logo.Perhaps you are confused because the front ends were made in japan by Showa and Kayaba corps.The best front ends made are the Ceriani from Italy.Everything Ive said is fairly undisputable fact not barstool rumor.No Harley made in Japan ever.

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Royal Glide

07-31-2006 19:14:30




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to dr.sportster, 07-31-2006 13:26:43  
"No harley was ever made overseas."

What about the sprint or the other Ameriguchi (sp?)stuff from Italy



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Jeff Oliver

07-31-2006 15:29:54




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to dr.sportster, 07-31-2006 13:26:43  
Bikes may not be made in China but some of the parts are. I know for a fact as they pulled the jobs out of my shop and we shipped the dies to China. Nothing is completly American made anymore, it's just something we have to get used to. But while HD is sending work over there Honda added 2 new lines in Marysville and hired more people.



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Mark - IN.

07-31-2006 15:09:26




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to dr.sportster, 07-31-2006 13:26:43  
I'm not talking Sporties, I'm talking Big Twins. Absolutely, "J" in the serial number...land of the rising sun. Began with the '80 FLT.

Mark



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dr.sportster

08-01-2006 13:42:18




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Mark - IN., 07-31-2006 15:09:26  
J in the serial number means1980 model thats all.H means the 1970s models H1 71,H2 1972 etc.I was skipped because it looks like a 1.Last digit is the year.This is the numbering system started in 1970.J was only used for 1980.The bikes were made in USA; motor Milwaukee assembly York.Correction to previous post statement."no Harleys were made overseas" Change overseas to Japan.As stated by someone lightweight models of later years were made by Aermacci in Italy.Sprints sx250 etc.NO HARLEY-DAVIDSON WAS MADE IN JAPAN.Please research your incorrect statement so you stop spreading misinformation.Also someone said the only thing the Japanese ever copied was cruisers.How bout water cooled[Germnay other european countries]Driveshaft three german manufactureres and more european firms[Dutch etc.].Supercharging Italian 1939,Inline horizontal four 1939 Gilera,two stroke two cyl. side by side MV[east German 1950s].Yamaha XS 650 direct copy of Triumph 650. I could go on and on. The most innovative of Japanese manufacturers was/is Honda.Shaft driven sidecar wheels NSU,Zundapp,BMW WW2.Horizontaly opposed Harley XA models.Copy of a Ducati 90 degree v-twin Suzuki.By copying and improving motocross bikes from europe Japan now dominates the sport but you cant tell me the only thing they ever copied was cruisers.Look at a Vincent service manual and youll see where Harley got the idea for the Sportster trans trap door.Very much the same design.Repeat NO HARLEY-DAVIDSON MADE IN JAPAN.Absolutly you have been given misinfo.Ill bet you a Sportster.

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Mark - IN.

08-01-2006 20:13:36




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to dr.sportster, 08-01-2006 13:42:18  
No Sir, the "J" as the second to last digit in the serial number does not stand for 1980, the "0" as the very last digit in the serial number in a 1980 Big Twin meant that it was a 1980 (season), as did a "9" as the last digit in a 1979, or an "8" as the last digit on a 1978. Check yor manuals, and if any Harley manual says that a letter of the alphabet is the last letter of a serial number, I'll eat my tractor and Shovel, and if any Harley manual says that a letter of the alphabet stood for the year of the scooter, I'll eat your tractor and Sporty (I presume) too.

I'd bet you a Sporty on it, but not into Sportys. They're quick on the take off, but too top heavy for their narrow highth and certainly not a comfortable ride for me. But, to each his or her own.

And as far as no Harleys being built overseas, a poster below hit an easy one right on the head with those Sprint and Baja jobs they had, without having to get into what letters and digits in serial numbers stand for. And as an example, in much more recent history, it was Harley that announced the Brazil plant about the same time they tried to get a patent on the "Ba Dupe" sound of their V-twins, and if you have a problem or disagreement with that, you need to aim your displeasure at their corporate offices, not me. Personally, I don't trade money with them. I don't care for their attitude that told the dealerships that stood behind and kept them afloat when they were almost broke to move into larger buildings where they "WILL" place the emphasis on selling belt buckles, boots, Victrolas, and pool tables instead of scooters, or their dealerships were revoked. I don't care for their attitude that tells those of us that stood behind and supported them when they were almost broke that we are no longer good enough for their image anymore because we don't drive Hummers and Jaguars and don't have a Road King spinning on display in our livingrooms as a conversation piece of art. If someone else wants to support that, so be it, its their money, not mine. Nowhere on my scooter or those of past will you find the word Harley. Used Harley parts, or aftermarket parts, but I built mine, my choice.

Mark

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dr.sportster

08-02-2006 13:26:13




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Mark - IN., 08-01-2006 20:13:36  
There is no plant in Brazil.There is no paint plant in Pittsburgh[its in York]Do a google search on H-D VIN numbers.NO HARLEY was EVER MADE IN JAPAN.A google search of Harley made in japan will lead you to a site that tells you its all AMERICAN MADE with 95% American parts.The dies being shipped to China are for the chrome bs Harley sells you after you buy the bike.You have a computer can you do some research and get some clue what your talking about?Try reading the book entitled WELL MADE IN THE USA published in 1981.President Reagan put a tarrif on the Japanese bikes to help Harley sell the AMERICAN MADE machines because the Japanese were dumping their bikes into our economy.J means 1980 model year look it up on your computer.I give up.

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George in Biloxi

07-31-2006 10:19:15




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Mark - IN., 07-30-2006 20:56:40  
Good post man.



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old

07-30-2006 21:30:08




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Mark - IN., 07-30-2006 20:56:40  
I wish I could still ride and so does my wife but, when the doctor say 35lbs weight limit on lifting a scot and my back don't mix. LOL Got my liense for a bike when I was 14 and still have a liense for rideing one. My best bike was a R600S BWM and the last big bike I had was a Honda 750-4. I was also once clocked doing 145 MPH on a Yamaha 500 that is the onl time I ever got that fast on a bike and it was also the last time. Sure would have hated to hit the pavement at that speed. LOL

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Mark - IN.

07-30-2006 21:55:49




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to old, 07-30-2006 21:30:08  
Old, how about a trike with a king and queen seat. Had a friend that had a VW trike that looked like a red Batman or something or other scooter. His wife traded her Sporty in on a new Dyna Wideglide, and he didn't want to ride on the back (be her b..ch), so he went out and bought that thing. Good guy, straight laced contractor, but the first time he rode up on that Batman looking thing that looked as though flames should've been shooting out the back, I told him that if I were a cop, I'd pull him over for general purposes because anyone that rode anything that looked anything like that...had to be up to something no good.

Had another buddy that's dead now, killed in a power plant that I do repairs in that went out and picked himself up this red, white, and blue, stars and stripes wedge looking trike that had the engine out of a Honda Civic. I can still see him out cruising that thing with the biggest smile on his face. Made God bless Greg's soul, and may he be riding upstairs in them clouds.

Take a look at Walnecks Cycle Trader either online, or a copy at 7-Eleven, or...

A trike with a B, C, WC, or WD motor? Old, it don't matter a bit to me. Anything you or anyone else wants or can do's fine by me. And if anyone don't like it...until they put the food in your mouth, money in your wallet, or roof over your head...feed 'em fish. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Mark

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trw

07-31-2006 06:07:11




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Mark - IN., 07-30-2006 21:55:49  
I have been thinking about building a "trike" for a while. Mine will be unique,if I ever get to do it, since it will have a V-6 diesel engine in it. We have a used Oldsmobile V-6 diesel that we took out of a car several years ago, and I think it would be a blast to put it in a trike. Probably would have the only diesel at Sturgis!!!



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Mark - IN.

07-31-2006 15:26:48




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to trw, 07-31-2006 06:07:11  
A few weeks ago I was working the nascar race in Joliet, and had seen pictures of those "Boss Hoss" scooters in the past, never did much for me though. Never actually saw one in person. So I'm on a golf cart waiting for a sea of people to clear enough to cross the road and I hear this rumble and see the sea parting. Out from in between them are two fellas on their "Boss Hoss" scooters. Both small block Chevys with Torker manifolds, wide open headers with turnout collectors, and obviously stiff cams. One could've taken either motor and dropped them into a passenger car and had a street screamer. Biggest fatbobs I ever saw - gotta hope ya don't backfire up through the carb, and if you do, don't have a leak. Incredible. Them guys legs straddled the motors about mid-head, and all I could think was let's go across the road to RT66 and see what they'll do in a straight 1/4 mile. Holy cow, like riding a rocket and more. So, I get back to the phoneroom and tell the guys what I just saw, and they tell me that can get 'em with big block Chevys too.

I still don't want one, but wouldn't mind taking one out...not full throttle though.

Mark

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Jeff Oliver

07-31-2006 15:33:46




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Mark - IN., 07-31-2006 15:26:48  
I test rode one of the small (350) ones this spring. You have to ride one to understand, thats all I can say. They are UNREAL!!! That being said, I still don't wan one. Too much bike, too much money. The big block is a 502 500hp motor....



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old

07-30-2006 22:05:15




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Mark - IN., 07-30-2006 21:55:49  
Ya I'd love to have a 3 wheeler but right now with the price of gas and other bills I don't have the $$ to even think about buying one. I'd build one but I don't have the parts to do so and if I did it might also look funny. LOL Maybe a 3 wheeled pickup sort of LOL



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Dug

07-30-2006 20:30:37




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
If you have the money, but the Harley. Great investment!



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kurt:ky

07-30-2006 19:29:32




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
I have a Honda made in Ohio. My wife has a Kawasaki made in Nebraska.I can put 500 miles a week total on both of them. It is usually 200 on Honda and 300 on Kawasaki.I don't worry about resale because they will have miles packed on them. We use them instead of cars. My welder truck is at work and is only used for work.If you want a Harley buy one. I personaaly am so short and little I can't get an Electra Glide off of the kick stand, let along touch the ground.

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old

07-30-2006 19:12:32




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
Me I would never spend a penny on a H-D I just plain don't like them. But on the other hand I would spend the $$ on a BMW guess I got spoiled by the one I had years back. They don't blow you ear drums out and they will run like the old tractors just a little TLC once in a while and they just keep on keeping on.



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dr.sportster

07-30-2006 19:08:44




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
Depends how long you keep it because japAneez bikes have little resale value where for some unknown reason people sell their used Harley for the price of a new bike.I cant figure it out.Also consider a Buell or Ducati.If I was to buy a new bike which is unlikely I would buy a Harley and keep it nice for resale value alone.Im still waiting for old Sportsters to get respect. Guys will like a 45 cu in flathead and prices have gone way up on them, not so with the Ironhead Xl models.Jap engineers copy stuff the Italians did in the 1930s and call them new ideas.In the seventies Japanese engineers called the V-twin an antiquated design destined for extinction.Now they copy Harleys just to sell bikes.HaHa.

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Jeff Oliver

07-30-2006 19:14:45




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to dr.sportster, 07-30-2006 19:08:44  
This is true I didn't mention that in my other post. Harley's keep their resale ALOT better than a and of the metric bikes. Doesn't really mean they are better as for riding but if your looking to ride something them trade around that is the way to go. Got a friend who had a wide glide. Bought it when they were cheaper and rode it until the popularity really started back. Sold it and bought a used BMW tourer and put $9000 in the bank. Not bad considering he paid $8000 for the HD in the first place.

I never look at resale ( Been driving dodge trucks since early 70's so I am used to something having no resale hahah) I bought my Honda because of the reliability and the look of it. Resale was never a factor in my decision but that was just me personally.

HD will hold the resale alot better than anything else though...

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XRogerX

07-30-2006 20:55:40




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Jeff Oliver, 07-30-2006 19:14:45  
Harley resale values will be coming down quite a bit in the next few years, as the boomers start getting a bit too frail to ride, or the novelty wears off. There's already no more waiting lists for new ones.

The only place the Japanese ever copy anything is in the cruiser market. Their sportbikes may as well be built by aliens. I knew a 1%er in trade school. They used to steal a few Japanese bike to smash to bits at their pig roasts. Before they beat them up, they'd drain the oil, pin the throttle and take bets on how long they'd last. One old Honda 550 Four (mid 70's bike) lasted half an hour. The only reason Japanese bike don't hold their resale value is because they got something a whole lot better for sale every few years, so nobody wants the old ones, combined with the fact that motorcycles are regarded as toys by most people, who also don't have a damn clue as to how to fix them. My old Yamaha is 24 years old. I just stripped it down to the crank. No wear at all on any of the main bearings. Tranny is faultless. I could have gotten away with just a front camchain tensioner, but you know how it goes "as long as I'm in this far, I might as well put in a set of rings...etc" The only thing wrong with older bikes like this is that parts get harder to come by.

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XRogerX

07-30-2006 19:03:33




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
If I really wanted a Harley, I'd ante up the money, since you'll probably just go on wanting one. Personally, I think the metric cruisers are a better bang for the buck. I'd have a Road Star if I had the money.



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Lumpy

07-30-2006 18:52:06




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to oliver power, 07-30-2006 18:16:40  
Depends on what the Jap bike is? If it is a Honda, definately! When I was shopping for one, I was almost dead set on a Dyna Low Rider, until I road the Honda Shadow Ace VT 1100. Both bikes had between 9000 and 9500 miles, were stock except for pipes, and were in the same shape. The harley would take the honda at the line, but the honda would catch it and stay with it. The honda was more comfortable ride, handled better, and was shaft drive which means alot less maint. I bought the Shadow for all the reasons above, plus one more... it will get me where I want to go and back home just as good as the harely. Sorry about the long reply, but I have had my Shadow for 3 years now and it has been trouble free. I've ridden alot of bikes and will buy another Shadow when the time comes.

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Jeff Oliver

07-30-2006 19:08:38




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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Lumpy, 07-30-2006 18:52:06  
I have ridden Honda's most of my life and would buy one instead of a Harley in a heartbeat. I Am not really trying to bash a Harley and they make a good bike but unless you just plain want to own one go Honda. I have owned the 1100 Shadow Spirit (VT 1100) since 2001 and as of today have 41,931 miles on it. Have changed the plugs twice not because I needed to but I figured after 22k it might not hurt anything. Last time was at 39k and again it wasn't running bad but while changing the filters and oil I figured what the heck. NO problems at all, none. Heck I am still on the original battery! If anyone gives you the argument that the jap bikes aren't American made they are wrong. Shadows are built in Ohio and I know for a fact that Harley has some Chinese parts on them. (We were running the parts where I work and were told by the supplier to ship the dies to China as they could make the complete part for less than material cost here)

That been said, If you have always wanted a Harley and think you will not be happy with anything else by all means buy one. You'l love it or hate it.:) I personally just never had the desire plus I don't like tinkering and alot of maintenance and the Honda fits that very well.

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 Re: OT: Motorcycle in reply to Jeff Oliver, 07-30-2006 19:08:38  
Got out of Army, Infantry, back in 1946, with an artificial leg! After a few years of messing with Model T's and A's, i bought a 1936 Indian Chief! Wow! What a ride that was! Had a lot of fun with it, rode it everywhere. Had to change the clutch pedal so i could work it with my wooden foot, but i learned early on, if i wanted to do anything, i'd have to adapt to it! Then in 1950, i got married, and bought a house. Had to get money to put a down payment on it, so i sold off the Indian, and a couple model A Fords! Years went by, and one day my sweet wife told me she was getting a swimming pool put in! I told her, if she did that, i was going to buy another motorcycle. So, she did and i did! bought an '82 Hondamatic in '83. Installed a gear shift (Locals called it a "suicide shifter") handle, to work the tranny settings. Had a torque converter tranny in it. 2 speeds forward, and neutral. I rode that bike every summer, until last year my dear wife decided, since i was 81, i'd better sell it. RATS!! And now that gas has got so high, i could really use it to chase tractor parts, etc. Some wag asked me why i hadn't bought a Harley, so i told him i always wanted to have a bike that would get me home, and not break down, making me walk an unknown number of miles, with my wood leg!
Somebody suggested a scooter, but i just can't bring myself to ride one of them! I'bve seen several older guys riding them and they look just plain silly, in my estimation! So, no scooter for me! I'll ride in my 91 Ranger pickup, 182,000+ miles on it, and buy the gasoline to do it! Rustyj

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