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john in la

07-23-2006 20:02:39




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I think my air compressor has seen better days and may be headed south on me.
It is a portable Craftsman that I bought while still living at mom and dads house so that makes it at least 29 years old.

Oil type compressor
2 Hp 220 volts 125 psi
Tank size 20 gallons
Delivery 7.4 scfm @ 90 psi or 210 slm @ 6.3 Kg CM
Displacement 10.7 std cu ft per min

Over the past year or so it seems to have trouble building pressure when the tank gets between 100 and 125 psi. If you add a little bit of oil on the air intake flutter valves it gets better.
Yesterday I started it up to fill some tires up and walked out of shed. I returned in 10 to 15 mins (was not really timing myself) to find it still running; 100 psi in the tank; and the compressor starting to smoke from heat. I shut it down and let it cool off. Added a little oil to air intake and it works OK again. No not like a new one but builds to 125 psi and shuts off.

I am thinking my piston compression rings are bad because when you add oil it gets better. Since the elec motor works great I was going to rebuild it. Problem is I look at the Sears Parts web site and the rings are no longer available. You can buy the piston but not the rings. Go figure that one out.

So I guess I need a whole new compressor. The tank is 30 years old so maybe that is best anyway before it starts rusting through. Looked at the big box hardware store but compressors of this tank size and Hp do not have the cfm I have. Actually about half the cfm I have. I even went to shop and relooked at my compressor thinking I got the #'s wrong.

So what should I be looking for in a new compressor??? or should I just get a compressor off a big truck and mount it on my tank????? ???

I really do not want to go with a lower cfm then find out I do not like it.
Is my compressor cfm way over board and more than I need for painting; air tools ect???

Any advise; thoughts; criticism; welcome.

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larry in tn

07-24-2006 12:33:15




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 Re: Air Compressor Advise in reply to john in la , 07-23-2006 20:02:39  
I have a rebuild kit for Sears #106-173781



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john in la

07-24-2006 23:07:38




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 Re: Air Compressor Advise in reply to larry in tn, 07-24-2006 12:33:15  
I have model # 106-154781

What is the differance??



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larry in tn

07-25-2006 07:03:28




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 Re: Air Compressor Advise in reply to john in la, 07-24-2006 23:07:38  
I couldn't cross reference the two part#. Try this link
Ralph Baer=== [email protected] Ralph is good at finding compressor parts.



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Pooh Bear

07-24-2006 10:02:14




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 Re: Air Compressor Advise in reply to john in la , 07-23-2006 20:02:39  
I just rebuilt one that was a little bit bigger.
It has a 5hp motor on it.
I put a new rod on one of the pistons.
Put a new crank shaft and bearings and seals in it.
New head gasket, and I forget what else.
I expect to get another 30 years out of it.
Mite even change the oil in it sometimes this time around.

Here's a quick TEMPORARY fix for you.
Adjust the regulator to shut it off at 95 PSI.
Who needs more than that anyway.
And you won't burn up the motor or over heat the compressor.

Pooh Bear

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RustyFarmall

07-24-2006 06:30:48




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 Re: Air Compressor Advise in reply to john in la , 07-23-2006 20:02:39  
Let's see, the compressor is getting weak, the tank is showing signs of rust, and the unit is about 30 years old. I'd say it is time to walk away from that one and buy a new unit. You can rebuild the pump on the old one, and it will work just like new, but you cannot rebuild the tank. I have tried brazing and patching up a rusted tank, I was constantly chasing new pin holes, it just isn't worth it. Plus, I have seen the results of a weak tank that let go while under full pressure, we were very lucky that no one was in the shop when it let go, it was not pretty.

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mbu

07-27-2006 00:10:08




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 Re: Air Compressor Advise in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-24-2006 06:30:48  
John in La,

RustyFarmall gave you some pretty sage advice. I hope you heavily weigh it into your final decision.



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cj3b_jeep

07-24-2006 05:51:55




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 Re: Air Compressor Advise in reply to john in la , 07-23-2006 20:02:39  
I'd check into the rebuild, just because sears does not have does not mean other places won't. Someone had to build the machine for them. Newer compressors, like newer lawnmowers, seem to have oodles of horsepower, but now as much oomph. My older compressor has a 4 horse, 13 cfm @125, 50 gallon tank. My newer one has 5 horse, 30 gallon tank, 7 cfm @ 90 psi.



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Graingers..John,PA

07-23-2006 20:43:30




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 Re: Air Compressor Advise in reply to john in la , 07-23-2006 20:02:39  
Try WW Grainger. They might be able to get your parts. Also, their recip. compressors are pretty good. Speedaire Brand. I have always had good luck with WW. Grainger.

HTH.....John,PA



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XRogerX

07-24-2006 18:06:42




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 Re: Air Compressor Advise in reply to Graingers..John,PA, 07-23-2006 20:43:30  
I agree, the Speedaire units would be an equivalent machine. Still decent quality.



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