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buickanddeere

07-18-2006 23:06:05




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Why do 95% of drivers pull off the busy street or highway into thier own private laneway/drive way head first? Now when trying to back out onto the road they can't see road traffic as soon as if they were driving out head first. Backing out also takes far longer,requiring more waiting for an extra large traffic opening. More time is required to back out, stop, change direction, then have to accelerate back up to highway speeds.

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Errin OH

07-20-2006 10:04:41




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
I am with Nolan one this one. I fail to see the advantage of stoping in the middle of the road blocking one lane, much worse two if you happen swing left to back in, vs making a right turn at slow speed. You have all day to sit there waiting to back out. If you can't see traffic you need to trim the bushes or clean out your car.

Many, many times I have parked downtown (main drag) just to have a van or SUV park on my right. Can't see squat. Take a good look get in and proceed slowly. I either see a car waiting or here a honk if someone is there. Now if some fool is doing 50 thru the middle of town, well I doubt I am going to be his biggest concern when the Cops show up.....

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fepo

07-20-2006 08:16:28




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
in the city here we dont have large driveways at all, barely fits one or 2 cars. But you are correct at least 95% of people drive in forwards! I fail to see what added value that has, except maybe for people that are car challenged, if they tried to back in they would consistently hit the retaining walls, other parked car, garage door, cat, dog, toys, kids... therefore in their mental calculations they would rather put *other people* and their properties at risk than their own. end of my rant:)

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Matt from CT

07-20-2006 05:58:25




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
While directing traffic after the storm the other night...

It's not that we had *that* much traffic -- over the hour, maybe 50 cars needed to be turned around (10pm on a Tuesday). 1/2 of them stopped or had to be stopped to give directions.

1 guy was drunk.
1 was stoned.
2 people should've never been given licenses because they where to stupid to breath, never mind drive.

That just wasn't a good batting average.

And I think that goes a long way to explaining why you see stupid stuff on the road.

I always prefer to pull into a road rather than back into one...and if the drivers on the road are so inattentive they'd rear-end you if you tried to back into a driveway, I sure as heck don't want to try backing out of a driveway into their path!

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Kestrel

07-20-2006 04:43:17




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
This discussion clearly illustrates the insanity of our modern world. Too many people driving too many cars while going nowhere at great expense.

Try parking at all in China. A 1000 new cars every day hit the streets of Bejing !

Kestrel in CT



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Leroy

07-19-2006 06:33:06




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
Nolan said it best. When you pull in you cannot wait for trafic to hit you from in back but when you pull or back out you can set and wait for 15 minuts if you have to to get a clear spot in traffic and if you have a problem seeing trafic when you back out then it means you haven't taking the time to mantain the property as if you did then you would have no obstruction to hinder view.



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Coloken

07-19-2006 05:11:16




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
B&D is right. BIL had a highway patrol man stop him years ago when he was useing a driveway to turn around on a highway and explain that it was much safer to be looking ahead when you pull out into the trafic. Just this week, a town in Colorado changed the lines on the diaganal parking the other way. You back into the space, drive out forward. Bet there is more of it. Seems funney at first, but the more you think, it becomes safer.

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Davis In SC

07-19-2006 18:52:07




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to Coloken, 07-19-2006 05:11:16  
I remember back in the days that folks had some manners, you stopped, then pulled forward, to parallel park. Backing in the diagonal spaces would be fine, but I bet the car behind you will usually pull up & crowd you , as you try to back in. Most drivers now are rude & stupid to boot... Last winter, I was going down a road after an ice storm. There was a powerline down, so I was trying to do a 3 point turnaround in extended cab dually, & it was a narrow road covered with ice. As I was trying to turn, the fool behind me pulled up so I could not even back up. I had to get out & ask him to back up a few feet, so I could get out.

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Sid

07-19-2006 15:04:13




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to Coloken, 07-19-2006 05:11:16  
That doesn't make sense to me. When you pull into a space you are already lined up to back out of it. This way you are going to have people back up stop and pull up turn the wheel back up stop turn the wheel back stop pull up turn the wheel stop back up stop turn the wheel stop pull up stop back up stop "oh the h ll with it Martha lets go eat somewhere we can park."



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Stan in Oly, WA

07-19-2006 18:35:34




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to Sid, 07-19-2006 15:04:13  
Hi Sid,

I think you missed the part where Ken said that they repainted the lines. If the lines for head in parking point toward oncoming traffic at 45 degrees from the curb, the lines for back in parking angle away the same amount. You park by driving past the parking place and backing in. Two steps to park, one step to unpark; the reverse of head in parking but the same number of steps.

All the best, Stan

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Nolan

07-19-2006 04:54:27




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
Are you genuinely suggesting they stop in the main road and back into their driveway? Do you really think that is safer? Especially with a fool riding your tail on the main road, one unable to stop if I do? One that will stop right on your rear bumper, if they don't simply hit you. Requiring that they now back up to let you back up into the driveway?

Personally, I pull straight in so I can get off the roadway as quickly as possible. I turn around if at all possible before re-entering the roadway.

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buickanddeere

07-19-2006 21:29:22




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to Nolan, 07-19-2006 04:54:27  
I'm getting real tired of drivers who jam the back 2/3 of their vehicle onto the street or parking lot lanes. Before they can see the road and check for traffic. Driving out head first lets you see if there is a clear spot to pull into before entering the traveled portion from your parking spot. Either driving into your driveway or backing into it. Traffic behind is still going to have to slow down and stop or almost stop. Parallel parking on main street requires traffic behind to slow or stop. No different for your driveway. When you are in front you should begin slowing down several hundred yards from your turn. For reasons unknown I see drivers travel at the full posted speed limit until a few hundred feet from the intersection then they brake late and hard to stop or slow and turn. This sudden and abrupt braking catches drivers cruising behind by surprise as you are still traveling at speed with a vehicle a few hundred feet ahead traveling 20 to 50 mph slower than you. A gradual slowdown by the vehicle ahead gives more warning and you behind maybe gaining at only 10 to 20 mph. Backing onto a road way requires more time than driving out head first. All this while looking around several blind spots reversing out that driving out doesn't have. Last night I had another person who wasn't a " high risk young aggressive male" pull right out in front of me from an intersection.As usual heavy brake application and swerving into the on coming lane was required. They seem either startled or totally oblivious howling tires or to a vehicle suddenly passing them doing 30-40 mph faster then themselves out of nowhere. These near mises are before they even get far enough to straighten out the wheels and have their turn signals cancel after pulling out.

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Midwest redneck

07-19-2006 02:23:20




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
How ya doing..... I know what you mean, I have a long driveway and made it so that my wife and I can turn around up near the garage and then drive straight out front first to the road. Some folks just dont care I guess.



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Fawteen

07-19-2006 01:41:34




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
Six of one and a half-dozen of the other, isn't it? Do you tie up traffic and take the time to back in, or do you take the time to back out and go with backing into traffic.

Me, I got a driveway big enough I can pull in and getthehelloutta traffic, turn around and pull out where I can see what I'm doing.



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Stan in Oly, WA

07-19-2006 01:26:57




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 Re: parking head first??? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-18-2006 23:06:05  
Because that's exactly how far most people think ahead. I started to provide a few other examples before I realized it's like shooting fish in a barrel (metric barrel for Canadians.)

All the best, Stan



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