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unioncreek

07-18-2006 12:30:53




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I borrow the neighbor trailer the other day to haul the last of my hay. The trailer is built to haul his crawler and has a gvw of 24K. Had it hooked to my 96 Dodge 2500 4X4 with the Cummins. Trailer was way more than I needed and heavy. I loaded 4 ton of hay on and strapped it down. I was coming through town and there was an older VW Bug in front of me. She slammed on the brakes at a cross walk. I was standing on my brakes the front was sqealing, back ABS was working and I could feel the trailer brakes grabbing hard. I knew I wasn't going to be able to stop so I looked in the left hand mirror and luckily no one was coming. Changed lanes just in time to barely miss her. The thing is no one was even in the cross walk. Stopped at the next light and a guy pulled up beside me and said, "She's lucky no one was beside you". I'd have probably gotten a ticket out of the deal if I had hit her.

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T_Bone

07-20-2006 04:16:19




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
38yrs ago on my wifes due date I passed a slow moving string of traffic with the first vehicle being a class C RV.

I had a 63 1/2 Ford Galaxey with a 390 4spd so I droped to 3rd and floored it. Just as I got close to the RV I seen a Ford Rancharo make a lef turn onto a sIde street. I couldn't see the Ford because the RV was tailgating the Ford.

I hit the brakes and slid for the longest time before I nailed the Ford on the left rear fender and bumper. I was at such a hard skid my bumper went under the Ford bumper and took out my grill, hood, radiator and dents on both front fenders.

The lady I hit was the head nurse at the hospital where my wife gave birth to our daughter a week later, and guess who we met first when the wife went into labor....lol

Ahhh the good memories of a stupid kid.

Thanks for the flash back :)

T_Bone

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Billy NY

07-19-2006 20:17:07




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
I know you really need to watch for the other person, sounds like you had a tag trailer designed for a single axle class 6 truck behind the 3/4 ton, one of those things that you had to be there to get the gist of it I suppose.

I am also generally tired of careless drivers, I reported a beer sales rep driving a PT cruiser who stormed out of a convenience store parking lot to catch his delivery truck driver, crossed a double yellow, the truck pulled out of a road connecting 2 roads in front of the store, PT cruiser guy cheated by looking down the road and stormed out, when the big truck passed, the sales rep guy could not see me, until after the truck cleared. Dumb move, and I chased him for a bit, then went home, called the company and reported him, it was in my neighborhood, I eventually got to the VP of operations of the distributor and expressed my dissatisfaction with the persons actions on the road, he also was training the owners son to take over the business, kid was in the vehicle with him. I'm glad I got to him, I feel like I made a difference. I could go on and on about this subject, you see a lot when on the road.

The funniest one I ever had happen was when a senior citizen tried to take a left beside me when I was taking a left with a tractor trailer, hauling a roof truss trailer, had the lower bolster arm kit on, kind of a sharp angle iron held on by heavy chain, so it hung low for certain truss configurations, well I hooked his car like a bass, and after I started the turn, as I was shifting, it felt like the emergency brake was on or the air line broke on the trailer, and the brakes came on, I looked did not see anything, grabbed one or 2 more gears and then saw the car hooked onto the trailer, I dragged it a fair distance, the tractor was an R-model Mack 300+ 9 spd, and I had dragged him into a curb, bent over the 2 wheels on the driver side and twisted the car so much that all the glass broke out ! The old timer was a little shook up, he said I'm 87 years old and still kickin, guess I'll be gettin a new car now. He tried to turn as I was turning using the outside lane to make a wide turn to clear the intersection, which was going up hill the direction we were both headed. I got some stupid ticket for it too, I was angry about that, as I've kept a clean driving record since I first got my license. Must have been 20 years ago when this happened.

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jeffcat

07-19-2006 17:36:27




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Yes it is such a shame that you can't run IDIOTS over and just keep drivin. I realy love it when one of these goofs pulls out in front of a 18 wheeler! How about when they pull out in the fast lane, you blow your horn, and they give you the finger! Jeffcat



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Roger in Iowa

07-19-2006 15:33:01




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
There are those running a scam doing this. They cause you to hit their car and then sue for whiplash, etc. Only a sharp lawyer can help by finding out if they have had similar claims and maybe turn the tables on them. Have to check out everybody in the car as they might rotate drivers.

What is this world coming to?

Roger in Iowa



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Jonfarmer

07-19-2006 13:07:39




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
People do alot of stupid things. I went for alittle ride today, and had a somewhat close encounter with some moron who floored his buick sedan out of a gas station into a small hole between me and the car ahead of me, floored his car into it, then slammed on the brakes to keep from rearending the car ahead of him. I really dislike driving on winter roads on all the main routes, it isn't my driving I'm afraid of, it's everybody elses. I ended up getting in a slight fender bender back a few years ago in the winter. I was traveling down a main route when the guy ahead of me suddenly hit his brakes to turn without signaling, and the roads were all covered with snow and ice, I couldn't stop, I hit the brakes on my then vehicle, a 1989 F150, and that didn't have antilocks on it, the truck slid into oncoming traffic and luckily the oncoming 1999 F250, decided to take the ditch because it would have been a head on if he hadn't, and I took out his mirror. Luckily that F250 had a soft landing in a field, and did'nt get any damage other than we clipped mirrors and it was a 4x4 so he was able to just drive right back out onto the road. The guy that had caused the whole thing fled the scene, didn't even stop to see if anybody got hurt. I also lucked out with that F250, I only had to buy the mirror, and they installed it themselves, which was a good deal. I'll tell you what though, the sound those big plastic extendable towing mirrors make when you hit one of those is pretty loud, I thought I had gotten the entire side of the truck.

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Steve in in

07-19-2006 10:17:11




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
In 1989 I made a daily trip to Indy and back from my home in Columbus. It was about 100 miles round trip.

One day, as I was coming home on 65 I came up on the Edinburgh overpass going over Highway 44. As there was traffic and I was young, I of course was in the left hand lane going about 75. There had not been anyone in front of me in my lane and I had just passed the last car in the right lane.

As soon as I crested the hill I saw a small station wagon STOPPED in the left lane where they had lost a load of clothes because their hatch was open. I immediately locked them up and swerved to the right. When I came to a stop I was facing on-coming traffic and was on the right shoulder with my rear bumper about six inches from the guard rail. The idiot stopped in the left lane was still there stopped along with two huge lines of traffic.

I don't know if anyone else collided but I do know when I pulled out and headed back the direction I was originally going, my Nova started going: thump, thump, thump, thump, thump. All 4 tires had flat spots. That was an unexpected expense. It could have been worse. I probably got out cheap.

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KEB

07-19-2006 07:56:19




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
It is YOUR responsibility to maintain sufficient distance between your vehicle and the one in front of you to be able to stop safety under any circumstances. What if the driver had slammed on the binders because a kid ran out in front of her instead of because she's having a blonde moment?

That being said, the world is full of self important morons, and unfortunately common sense and courtesy are not requirements for getting a driver's license. We can all relate instances where someone did somthing dumb in front of us. I even got tagged for a fender bender one time because some woman driver tried to crowd behind me while I was backing out of a parking space (she pulled out of another spot AFTER I was partway out, then tried to pull forward behind me). Even though what she did was incredibly stupid, the rules say that the person backing out has to yield...

I hated driving in California the whole time we lived there. Any time you try to leave a little space between yourself and the car ahead of you, some nut case will pull into it trying to get around someone else.

Enough of the rant, but in this case the rule is you're responsible for being able to stop no matter what the idiot ahead of you does. Some people actually commit insurance fraud by deliberately causing accidents which take advantage of this rule.

Keith

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George in Biloxi

07-19-2006 07:39:19




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Oh yeah,
That is nice feeling. I think everyone should have to drive a truck & trailer at least once. It seems as though many people do not think about simple physics at all. I came across this article one day. It kinda gives me chills when I read it. I think it should be posted and read as part of the course in the DMV.

George

http://www.newbiedriver.com/articles/Dear_John_Q_Public.htm



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JohnDeereGreen

07-19-2006 14:05:18




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to George in Biloxi, 07-19-2006 07:39:19  
That article makes a powerful message to everyone, especally people like me: younger drivers. Thanks for sharing.
JohnDeereGreen



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Nolan

07-19-2006 04:50:05




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
As much as I can understand your story, I find myself wondering why you were so close to her that you found yourself in trouble by her stopping.

It would be one thing if she'd pulled out in front of you and slammed on her brakes. But you say you were following her through town.



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unioncreek

07-19-2006 11:30:06




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to Nolan, 07-19-2006 04:50:05  
I was at least four car links behind her in a 35 mph speed zone. By the time you can react your at least 3 car links away that't not very far. She's just lucky that I was able to change lanes. My Dodge's bumper would have hit that VW half way up the back.

Bobg



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Franky G

07-19-2006 04:56:00




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to Nolan, 07-19-2006 04:50:05  
A VW stops a whole lot quicker than a truck. You don't expect someone to stop when there is no sign or light and it only takes a second of not staring at the brakelights in front of you for this to happen.

Have you ever driven a truck?



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RickL

07-19-2006 03:34:00




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Yea had it happen alot as used to run grain trucks,had to take shoulder of road more than want to remember. But i have to say that probabkly the most eye opening thing happen couple years whe semi was passing me and he lost his rear tractor dual assembly jaust as he got to my door.



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Don-Wi

07-19-2006 01:07:06




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
I was pulling home a load of hay with the tractor and baler behind my cousin pulling a load with his truck. Some one pulled out in front of him and he locked up. Then I locked up the tractor rears, leaving BIG, HEAVY 16"x 10' skid marks on the road. Thank God I didn't hit the load in front or loose my own load. Don't know how I didn't either. I almost had a load in my shorts after that mess...


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buickanddeere

07-18-2006 22:59:01




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
How about those drivers who signal and slow down to enter a driveway, shopping mall entrance etc. Rather than continue from the highway onto the parking lot. They come to a near or complete stop in the live lane. Then they inch the vehicle over the tiny little 1" to 2" curb between the road and drivway. One would think they have only two bolts holding the wheels on and they are afraid of having the wheels/suspension fall off over a road bump. The vehicle rocks more at 3mpg going over a bump than would rock at 30mph on the same bump.

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NC Wayne

07-18-2006 21:09:37




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Drive a 30,000lb+ Freightliner on nearly a daily basis and incidents like this, or really similar, happen nearly every day. I"ve had bicycles come out of side streets and cross in front of me without stopping to look that I didn"t miss but by a few feet....Been going downhill on the interstate and had a car chase me the length of the on ramp trying to get in front of me that were so anxious to be in front they didn"t notice the broke down car at the end of their lane til the last second.....Always have my safe stopping distance reduced by the idiot that cuts in at the last second..... .idiots that suddenly come to a complete stop and then set and wait to turn with nothing coming, with no prior signal..... Like the others if you drive the road enough your sure to see all kinds and get more than your feel of idiots..... .

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Danin Ore

07-18-2006 20:57:26




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
One time I was going down a fairly steep and windy hill with my wife and grandson. The byclists like to ride that because they can get going real fast down the hill without any effort. We were following one of these guys down the hill when he slammed on his brakes. I was not following too close, but since bycicles have no brake lights, by the time I realized he was stopping I almost took him out. It scared the H--- out of me and the wife both.

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Davis In SC

07-18-2006 20:55:00




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Just as bad, are the jerks that tailgate a truck or trailer, that has a load on it. I honestly think that they are wanting the load to fall off, so they can hit it & sue... I remember once, I had a milling machine on a flatbed truck. I left it right at the back so we could unload it, using the equipment we had. I took the long back road to my destination, since the load was sort of precariously perched. It was chained & strapped very well. A guy in a little car got behind me, nose of his car was almost under the truck. Finally, I got to a wide spot, pulled over & waved him by... He stopped, so I walked back, & told him to go ahead & pass... He said he was not in a hurry, that he did not mind following me...Go figure...

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Rockyhawaii

07-18-2006 18:59:48




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Something about a trailer that compels people to pull out in front of you and then slow down or stop. Almost magical. Was the driver of the VW on a cell phone?



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730virgil

07-18-2006 18:07:47




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
i think we all have stories like this some bozo does something dumb and you have to hit brakes to keep from killing them nephew drives 18 wheel tanker some old lady pulls out in front of him ( he has trailer loaded ) he don't know why or how he didn't ran over her



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Rauville

07-18-2006 16:33:16




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Last year, we had one of those big "SuperStores" open up at the edge of town. Of course, there had to be a traffic signal installed on the highway to allow shoppers in and out. In less than 10 months, there have been 2 fatal crashes at that intersection. These were vehicles that were stopped for red lights and have been rear-ended by drivers either drunk or not paying attention. Hard to drive defensively when you're a sitting duck.

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MNredfarmer

07-18-2006 14:32:04




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Not too long ago in a town near here, a fellow and his nephew had just had a cup of coffee together at a fast food place. They left at about the same time, the uncle in a semi and the nephew in a little car. The uncle started down the road and a couple of miles out of town, the nephew passed the semi and suddenly pulled over to the shoulder and without warning made a U-turn right in front of his uncle.The boy died. It was real sad, don't know what goes through peoples heads at times like this. I feel sorry for the uncle.

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john d

07-18-2006 14:31:04




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
You can't predict when somebody is going to hit the brake.

About 35+ years ago when I was teaching drivers ed in the summer, I had a young lady who wasn't a bad driver, but was much too timid about acceleration, and didn't want to drive over 40 mph. On the last day of class, as we were heading back to school on a wide two lane road, I complimented her on her caution, than told her that I was concerned that she'd take her brother's hopped-up Chevy for a drive and not be able to handle it. I told her I wanted her to push the accelerator to the floor, let the car go into passing gear, and when it got to 60 mph, she could take her foot off the gas.

We continued to cruise along for a bit, then I said, "Go ahead and push the accelerator to the floor!" She said, "Now?" I said, "Yes, now!"

She continued to drive along at 45 mph, and I said, "Push the pedal to the floor now!" Without hesitation, she mashed the BRAKE pedal down and held it there! All four wheels were locked, tires were screeching, the car was sliding down the middle of the road at about a 30 degree angle from straight ahead....and I had both hands locked on her right thigh just above the knee trying to get her foot off the gas while yelling at her to pick up her foot!

We slid to a complete stop in the middle of the road. Then she said "I don't know why I did that!" The two kids in the back seat and I were all speechless. It's a good thing nothing was coming from either direction.

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Steve Crum

07-18-2006 14:29:03




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Not really a brake story but I travel up rt 220 everyday about the same time as the high school kids are getting out. At the time I was driving my old Chevy 4 wheel drive with a 4 speed and a Holley equipt 454 which had a nasty habit of loading up. At the Pine street exit, some kids which obviously had Mom and Dad's white on white Ford LTD were entering the highway off the entrance ramp. I signaled and moved to the left lane to let them on. They seemed happy to stay tight along my right hand side. I'd speed up ,they sped up, I'd slow down they slowed down, they thought it was a big joke. I had a car and an 18 wheeler behind so I didn't want to give the impression that I was agressive and start crowding the kids in the LTD which by now was quite obvious they were screwing with me. So I tapped the brakes a couple times then clutched and shoved it down to 3rd and mashed that Holley to the floor. What came out of the 3" exhausts ahead of the right rear wheel would have made any overloaded Detroit Diesel proud. Seeins' how I now had a decent head of steam up, I shoved it back in 4th and kept on rolling. Never saw the LTD after that but the car behind me passed me and gave me a thumbs up. I'd have loved to hear the explaination to Mom and Dad for that one.

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Stan in Oly, WA

07-18-2006 13:47:29




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
Hi Unioncreek,

Once about 25 years ago I was trying to make my way through the downtown area of Seattle on the freeway during rush hour. I needed to get over one more lane to my left in the next 1/8th mile or I was going to miss the entrance to the express lanes, which would make my drive a little longer and a lot harder. Seattle traffic is terrible, and Seattle drivers are angry and aggressive, but only so-so in the skill department. Nobody felt like letting me in, so I picked an opening about the size of my '72 Datsun p/u and slid in. Nobody had to hit the brakes, but two old knucklebusters in a beat up Dodge p/u which I was now in front of must have been irritated that they weren't going to get to see me miss the on ramp. As soon as we were on the express lanes they raced to get ahead of me, then hit the brakes repeatedly to try to get me to rear-end them. That would have done a lot of damage to my vehicle, and probably none at all to theirs.

When they took off I chased after them until we were miles north of the city. I couldn't catch up to them and finally gave up. I never did figure out exactly what I thought I was going to do if I managed to catch them, but I was interested to find out and I think they weren't.

All the best, Stan

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Jimmy King

07-18-2006 12:59:02




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to unioncreek, 07-18-2006 12:30:53  
I drive a 6 wheeler at night for a living, 4 or 5 years ago I pulled out of a convence store. The only traffic was about 1/2 of a quarter mile so I pulled out and was in the inside lane of a 5 lane street, a little car with 4 boys in it whipped over in front of me after they passed me then slammed the brakes on. I would have gotten a ticket there usless someone saw what happened and came forward, and that is not likly.

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Franky G

07-18-2006 16:42:20




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to Jimmy King, 07-18-2006 12:59:02  
I drive a pickup with a bobcat on the trailer behind in metro traffic everyday for work. What you described happens all the time. You try to leave some room in front and some moron always comes barreling in to fill the space then hits the brakes for the stoplight. I ain't killed anyone, yet.



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Rustyj14

07-18-2006 19:18:46




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to Franky G, 07-18-2006 16:42:20  
Driving around Indianopolis one day, in our Class C motor home, in a driving rain storm,55 mph, 2 lanes suddenly decided to slow down quickly, ostensibly so they all could see what the guy was doing in the median! I knew i had enough room to stop without hitting anybody, but some jerk behind me suddenly decided i wasn't going fast enough, so he ran out beside me, and passed, then drove into my lane, and jammed on his brakes, because that lane was stopped. I hit the brakes hard, but the front tires hydro-planed! that fool in the truck--well when he heard those big tires rumbling on the road, his eyes got as big as semi tires! I let up on the brakes, the tires gripped again, and i got stopped about 6 inches from his back bumper! The coach loomed over his little truck like a behemoth!

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Jimmy King

07-19-2006 00:50:24




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 Re: OT - Ever had anyone slam on the brakes in fro in reply to Rustyj14, 07-18-2006 19:18:46  
These boys did this on purpose, no stop lights nobody in front of them, nobody in the lane they came over from.



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