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Sleepin' With The Spiders

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Glenn F.

07-12-2006 05:59:15




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It's dry here in NE WI. The last three mornings I have woke up with 1-3 new bites on my arms, fingers, and upper body. I assume they're spiders as we haven't seen a misquitoe in a while. Question is...What type of spiders am I likely dealing with? I never see them. When I wake up, feeding time is over and they've disappeared. How can I get rid of them?

Thanks, Glenn F.




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Stan in Oly, WA

07-13-2006 11:15:55




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
Hi Glenn,

Statistically speaking, it's unlikely that you were bitten by a spider or spiders. Spiders are identified as the culprits by staff in hospital emergency rooms somewhere between dozens and hundreds of times more often than they are actually responsible for the bite or bite-like injury. Blaming a spider, particularly a brown recluse, has gotten to be the lazy doctor's way of saying, "I don't know what caused this." In the non-medical world, spiders are blamed for bites hundreds of thousands of times more often than they are actually responsible.

In states with no brown recluse populations whatsoever, where medical personel have never seen an actual brown recluse bite, that spider is identified in doctors' offices and hospital emergency rooms as the cause of bites from dozens to hundreds of times per year. Not surprisingly, the suspect spider is never brought in for identification by the victim. In states with large brown recluse populations, where medical personel are at least somewhat familiar with the appearance of actual bites, the number of reported bites range from single digits to tens per year, and the spider is brought in by the victim for identification more often than not.

We didn't change when science replaced superstition as the prevailing view in the industrialized world, we just started using different terminology. Now we state our prejudices and fears in scientific terms instead of superstitious ones. Me too, all of us, because that's what humans do.

Should I take my soapbox with me or leave it here for the next blowhard?

All the best, Stan

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George in Biloxi

07-13-2006 11:50:22




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 07-13-2006 11:15:55  
Hey Stan,
Hope all is well. Is that last paragraph your own? I thought it was kinda brilliant.

George



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Stan in Oly, WA

07-13-2006 23:10:11




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to George in Biloxi, 07-13-2006 11:50:22  
Hi George,

Nice to hear from you again, it's been awhile. That was mine, all right. Thanks. You've lifted my spirits a few times, George, and I appreciate it. It particularly means something to me when it comes from someone who shows good sense in whatever subject he posts about, as you do.

Thanks again, Stan



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George in Biloxi

07-14-2006 13:44:59




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 07-13-2006 23:10:11  
Damn. Well, to blow some more smoke..... Simularity wafted with that thought and some ideas and opinions Einstein writes. He is a favorite of mine. I just wish I knew what the he!! he is talking about.....;>)
George



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bradk

07-13-2006 10:26:41




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
Glenn,
Do you have pets in the house?We have cats and a dog in the house,and when they start itching their ears(ear mites),we get bites.Usually get 'em in tender spots like upper arms,between fingers,ankles,legs and stomach.As soon as we treat the animals with Frontline,they go away. Do the bites itch like a son-of a-gun?



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boo

07-12-2006 19:05:28




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
What about them dang MEETCHY bugs ?????

They bite you on one side and MEETCHY on the other !!!! Now that's funny !! Git 'er done !!!



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Case Lady

07-12-2006 12:02:31




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 got bit a couple of weeks ago in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
had what I thought was a nasty zit come up on my cheekbone, wouldn't go away, made a nasty spot, red circle around it, but didn't look like typical spider bite (brown recluse); however, felt like YUCK for about a week; had to take #1 child in to doc for a look at his ears and doc allowed I was sicker'n #1 child. Had a spider bite from a commom house spider (whatever that is). 2000 mg of antibiotics for 10 days..... barf! If any of these spots have a white spot in them or look like a zit that won't bust, go see a doctor and get some antibiotics for it.....LA200 won't get this one! Take care - CL

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ScottP

07-12-2006 11:56:54




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
Glen
Do a internet search for "eastern blood sucking cone nose" (Triatoma sanguisuga).
Are you the only one getting bitten?
You wont feel the bite from a cone nose until he is long gone. They have an enzyme in their spit that is an anesthetic.
These are fast and hard to kill. They usually live in wood rats nest but your house is good also.
They will come in with the firewood.

Scott

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Charles (in Ga)

07-12-2006 15:34:46




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to ScottP, 07-12-2006 11:56:54  
Saw a news story just last week about a guy being bitten by a cone nose. They found it under his bed finally.

Charles



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Copone

07-12-2006 11:37:42




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
The article I read stated a person will eat an average of seven spiders while sleeping during their life time.



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dr.sportster

07-12-2006 12:44:13




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Copone, 07-12-2006 11:37:42  
So some scientists sat in a chair watching someone sleep for an entire liftime counting the amount of spiders ingested?Why didnt they just wake the guy up and tell him hey buddy theres a spider in your mouth,spit it out before you eat it?Can I get paid for this test?These are the mysteries of the universe.



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James in North Carolina

07-12-2006 11:33:22




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
I guy came into our gym a few weeka sgo that had been bitten on the hand by a black widow. It looked awful. His hand was still swollen and looked like he had a really serious chemical burn. Actually I asked him if he had a chemical burn and he said no, a black widow bite.

Black Widows are fairly common here so I spray around our gym and house a couple times a year.



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Way Up Here

07-14-2006 15:48:44




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to James in North Carolina, 07-12-2006 11:33:22  
I hung around with a black widow a few years back and we had a good time, until she ran away with her old highschool sweetheart. He played basketball and she was a cheerleader. His wife died so he was a black widower.



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TomTX

07-12-2006 08:43:13




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
Sounds like bed bugs. If so you are really in for lots of professional extermination, and then may have to burn all mattresses, rugs, etc. Sometimes almost impossible to get rid of. Any guest who has travelled can bring them into your home. Good luck. Tom



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jeffcat

07-12-2006 18:56:51




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to TomTX, 07-12-2006 08:43:13  
I was just going to say bed bugs. The nextdoor neighbor does bug control and was telling what a Bi---tch they are to get rid of. YOU DON"T want them and if you stay at hotels or camp out or laundramats and on and on and on. They have shown up in the past few years and have come across the border. Yes they like to travel from other places to here. Look it up on Google and see how bad the bugs are geting. Jeffcat

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Richard H.

07-12-2006 06:38:46




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
Glen I saw on the morning news once a story on how many spiders the average human ingest while sleeping . Staggering! The two Wild Bill talks about are deadly but many others do bite.



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Wild Bill

07-12-2006 06:18:37




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Glenn F., 07-12-2006 05:59:15  
In general, there are only two spiders in North America that will bite a human, they are:

The Black Widow, and the Brown Recluse.

If you were bitten by either of these you would know it, both cause a nasty painful bite where the flesh rots at the site. It is probably something else that bit you, fleas maybe?



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Mark

07-12-2006 08:08:56




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Wild Bill, 07-12-2006 06:18:37  
I don't mean to sound silly.....but what about bedbugs? "Sleep tight and dont let the bed bugs bite."

Have you been in the weeds and maybe carried chiggers in?



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bil b v

07-12-2006 14:39:46




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 Re: Sleepin' With The Spiders in reply to Mark , 07-12-2006 08:08:56  

maybe e has been rolling something in the hay .



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