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Ithcy 2

07-11-2006 19:08:12




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What is the difference between babbit and lead?
I know babbit wears longer, but they seem the same thing.




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Mike M

07-12-2006 05:34:29




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 Re: Lead or babbit in reply to Ithcy 2, 07-11-2006 19:08:12  
I'm trying to remember for sure ? but I think if you take the point of a knife blade and drag it along in it with some pressure babbit will peel out a sting that is curly like a pigs tail.I think that's how you identify it.



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TimV

07-11-2006 19:22:22




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 Re: Lead or babbit in reply to Ithcy 2, 07-11-2006 19:08:12  
Classic babbit is a mixture of lead, tin, and antimony. Nowadays there is often a few percent of copper mixed in. You can still get it at places like McMaster-Carr.



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Nebraska Kirk

07-11-2006 19:16:25




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 Re: Lead or babbit in reply to Ithcy 2, 07-11-2006 19:08:12  
Pure lead by itself is much too soft to use as bearings, it would wear out very quickly. It has to be mixed with a harder metal, such as tin and/or other metals. That is what babbit is, lead alloyed with other metals to make it harder and longer wearing.



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bubba 2

07-11-2006 21:39:52




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 Re: Lead or babbit in reply to Nebraska Kirk, 07-11-2006 19:16:25  
Wish you could have been around to tell an old friend who used leather for bearings in a race car back in the 30s.He might have never won a race.lol.



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jeffcat

07-12-2006 19:16:33




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 Re: Lead or babbit in reply to bubba 2, 07-11-2006 21:39:52  
You better beleave it works. Fixed an old air pump that had worn bearings. Use it on the bottom cap of the rod. still going after a couple of years. The hard leather from a shoe repair sole is the hardest and will stand up to the piston rod. The old timmers were not the idiots too many young people think today!!! Try this; if you want to clean your copper pots get some powdered boiler cleaner. It comes in a one pound plastic bag and is STRAIGHT vitiman "C". WOW does it clean copper quick!!! Also Tang does a good job but not as fast. Thinking of copper. have any of you had trouble getting the newer 50/50 soilder without lead to knit to the pipe? The first thing is all of the pipe and fittings are spotless. Also they must be dry. Now here is the trick. I was in the home D and a union plumber was getting a whole cart load of stuff for a night job. He said to try a can of "this" stuff. Look for a little lawn green can from Oakley. About $1.29 each. The stuff is grey and looks like body Dum-Dum. IT works GREAT!!!! Makes a beautiful bead and fills any gap slick as you please. Give it a shot. Jeffcat

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Vern-MI

07-12-2006 04:55:23




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 Re: Lead or babbit in reply to bubba 2, 07-11-2006 21:39:52  
Oak veneer would have worked too but you had to make sure the sand was removed first.



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buickanddeere

07-11-2006 21:08:57




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 Re: Lead or babbit in reply to Nebraska Kirk, 07-11-2006 19:16:25  
Hard alloys against the crank to take the wear. Soft alloys/lead undernear the hard metal to handle/cushion the pounding. A clever design actually.



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