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jerrycpp

07-03-2006 16:25:35




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My dream shop is ready for lights. It's 40X70, 12 foot ceiling, heated floor, insulated, walls and ceiling are OSB, and everything will be painted white. It has two overhead doors on the long side. One end will be for woodworking, the other end, with the two bays, for machinery repair. I intend to use HO 8 foot florescent lights, and do know enough to put them lenghwise along the sides of any machinery parked for repair, and close to the walls to avoid shadows. Any suggestions would be most appreciated, such as how far apart to put the lights over the center part of the shop.

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A few words

07-08-2006 10:03:08




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 Re: New shop needs lights in reply to jerrycpp, 07-03-2006 16:25:35  
YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH LIGHTS< WAIT UNTIL YOU GET OLDER - it gets harder to see.!



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MarkB_MI

07-06-2006 04:29:33




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 Re: New shop needs lights in reply to jerrycpp, 07-03-2006 16:25:35  
I opted for the eight foot T8 fixtures rather than the HO fixtures. These fixtures are supposedly more efficient, and the electronic ballasts are good down to zero degrees F. (I think the HO units will go down to -20 F.) I've been very happy with these units. I used six fixtures in my 30x40 shop and wired them so I can use either two, four or all six depending on conditions.

The electrical inspector dinged me because the fixtures weren't rated down to -20F. I added some halogen lights to get approved. In the winter, if I'm only going in the shop for a minute I use the halogens, otherwise the T8 fixtures warm up in a couple of minutes on the coldest days.

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jerrycpp

07-05-2006 18:24:56




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 Re: New shop needs lights in reply to jerrycpp, 07-03-2006 16:25:35  
Thank all of your for your input. HO units are going up soon, and lots of them.



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TomCNY

07-04-2006 12:19:03




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 Re: New shop needs lights in reply to jerrycpp, 07-03-2006 16:25:35  
Jerry,

That sounds like it's going to be a great shop! I just built a 24'x 32' building with ceilings about 9' 3", also insulated and sheetrocked. I hung four 8' HO cold start (this is central NY) fixtures, each with two 110 watt tubes, from short chains so that they are about 8.5 feet above the floor and still have room for air to circulate above. They provide plenty of illumination for my purposes, but that experience taught me that if I were lighting a building like yours, I would keep the fixtures out about 4 feet from the walls (especailly where you will have work benches), and then run the others in parallel rows not more than perhaps 10 feet apart. In your 40' x 70' building, that would mean running four rows of 8 fixtures per row going lengthwise of the shop. Or, since your overhead doors are on a long side, you may want to run 7 rows of 4 fixtures per row going the shorter direction. You will obviously need to run several circuits to accommodate all of those lights, so carefully thoughtout switching will let you turn on just those that you need when you are working in just one area, or are just walking in to find a hammer to take to the house. BTW, don't forget to put a few receptacles in the ceiling so you can hang 2 or 3 retractable trouble lights, or a power cord. Good luck with your new shop! Tom

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RickL

07-04-2006 05:49:45




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 Re: New shop needs lights in reply to jerrycpp, 07-03-2006 16:25:35  
54x75 shop lights run full length, and 5 rows wide across/ all eight foot cold start units. wired into bays. really lghts it up and love it that way,get the no hum units also especially if you have low ceiling that humming can drive ya crazy.



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oldfarmtractor

07-04-2006 05:06:22




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 Re: New shop needs lights in reply to jerrycpp, 07-03-2006 16:25:35  
Cliff,

How do you like the rounded type building. I was thinking of one but wondered about insulating and then wall coverings.



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Cliff Neubauer

07-04-2006 06:19:02




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 Re: New shop needs lights in reply to oldfarmtractor, 07-04-2006 05:06:22  
Our building was built for grain storage in the early 80s and later became our shop since it already had a concrete floor and bigger doors than any of our other buildings. I would NOT build one for a shop, they would not be practical to insulate and you loose alot of room along the sides because things like bolt bins have to sit out a couple feet from the wall.



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NC Wayne

07-03-2006 22:27:41




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 Re: New shop needs lights in reply to jerrycpp, 07-03-2006 16:25:35  
Dad's shop is 40x60 and mine is 20x40 He has two rows of 5 lights running length wise down each side about 6 feet in. Mine has two rows of 4 on each side starting about 4 feet from the outside wall and running toward the middle. We both also have several 4 foot fixtures extending out from the walls over our work benches, drill presses, etc. He has three 500 watt and and I have two 300 watt Halogen lights aimed at a point right inside the roll up door where whatever machine is being worked on usually gets parked. One mistake we both made initially was not putting a regular light over the area inside the roll up door. I recently corrected the mistake in my shop and hung up a single 8 foot light I had laying around and it made a world of difference. Even with the halogen lights aimed down it tends to leave shadowy spots,especially if your working down inside something. Having a direct overhead light eliminates that. True the light is covered if the door is open but it makes a world of difference when it's closed. Another thing that can make a big difference is the kind of bulb you use. I'm not sure what the exact terminology is but there are some that can make things look lighter just because of the way they make you perceive the colors. I had a guy at a local electrical house gave me some once that were the same wattage as the old ones but that gave you a truer color perception. It was like the difference in night and day in the shop. Problem is they were about 3 times the price of "regular" bulbs. Things may have changed in the way of pricing, etc in the years since he gave me that batch but it's something to think about if you are looking for all the "light" you can get. Good luck and enjoy the new shop. If your like the rest of us you'll soon wish you'd built it about three times as big...

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Cliff Neubauer

07-03-2006 18:26:49




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 Re: New shop needs lights in reply to jerrycpp, 07-03-2006 16:25:35  
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In our 40x40 shop I currently have 10 8' HO fixtures but I have two more to put up long one wall. Our shop is a quanset building so I have four fixtures down each wall about 9-10' off the ground and with them that low they do a good job of shining under tractors parked in the building. I also have four fixtures mounted cross ways down the center of the building but if I was doing it over again I'd probably put six down the middle.

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