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Bought me some corn for the stove.....

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Midwest redneck

07-02-2006 04:34:13




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Yesterday, me and a friend of mine bought 20 bags of corn from a local farmer, $7/ 100 pounds. The farmer says he has silos full of corn all year, dryed-screened. I am storing it in my garage in heavy rubbermade cans with lids, my local home depot and the local hardware store dont have steel cans. I will need to buy more cans seeing that I have 8 bags that need to be in cans. We also got my corn stove into the house and my Lopi wood burner into the garage...that was heavy, Iam not as young as I used to be.

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super99

07-06-2006 04:14:49




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
To each his own. If you are satisfied, don't matter what anyone else thinks. Have 4 year old Design Home, 960 sq ft. Takes about800 gallons of LP a year in north central Ill. $1.50 and rising LP prices, Soon as I can afford a corn burner, I'll have one. Raise my own and put it in a gravity box in the shed. Screw the oil companys!!!Chris



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David in Maryland

07-05-2006 13:37:42




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
It sounds like some of you like to sell corn for $1.75 - $2 per bushel. I don't. We sell some corn by the bag for $8 per bag. There is expense and effort involved in selling corn by the bag for which I want to be paid. Look at it as selling retail instead of wholesale. I'll sell corn anytime in bulk at less than bag price but not necessarily at market price if I don't like the current market price. That's why I invested in grain tanks. If you like the price develop a retail market, I think you'll find that it takes a lot of time and effort to sell any amount of corn. The original poster seemed satisfied with the price he'd paid for corn and was happy that it was much less than propane.

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Midwest redneck

07-06-2006 17:03:50




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to David in Maryland, 07-05-2006 13:37:42  
Amen, It will cost me 1/2 to heat with corn vs. Propane. I make out and so does the farmer. I agree that the farmer should charge more for bagged corn vs. bulk. I would love to have a wagon that could be filled up for say $3/ 100 lbs. but I am not going to buy a truck and wagon to save $300-400 per year.



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720Deere

07-06-2006 19:38:20




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-06-2006 17:03:50  
In two years you would have a gravity wagon paid for, but you need a place to keep it. Therein lies the problem for most people. You are still doing better than the cost of wood pellets. I have thought about a corn stove, but I think it would take too long for it to pay for itself. Of course with our recent rate hike on electricity the gap may be getting more narrow!



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paul

07-03-2006 09:04:09




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
Couldn't find coal for sale around here any more. Corn is cheap, I try real hard to get $2 a bushel in quanity, mostly around $1.75.

Corn stoves want clean, dry corn, fellow comes for a few bags full takes more time, so Anything around $3 would be fair to both sides.

Typically one burns 200 bu or so in a corn stove per year, a gravity box, so you can go get your corn, then store it in a shed, or a _really_ good tarp is the way to go. You show up with a gravity box & you can have the corn for under $2 a bu.

Any reason you can't store it in the bags you got it in, put it on top of metal buckets so no rodent can climb up to it, just keep it in the bags.

Plastic or metal 55gal drums go $2-5 each around here, couple of those would be a lot cheaper than your way.

--->Paul

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RB/CT

07-03-2006 07:00:42




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
Millions of btus in a ton of Coal. I use 2 tons at $190 ton, in my Alaska Stoker Coal Stove, which burns like a pellet stove. Uses rice coal. www.alaskastove.com. Corn is a good idea if it works for you. You could always build a coal bin, outside and store the loose corn in it. Mine has doors that remove as the coal goes down. Good luck. I think oil will be about $3 gallon come winter, although I havent used any in 20 years with coal.

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oliver power

07-03-2006 03:38:22




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
WOW! , Midwest redneck , your being beet up some. I like the last post of the gravity wagon. That"s what I had done for my coal. Works great! And no shoveling. I funneled the openning to fit a 5 gallon bucket. If you have the room , great way to go.



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Leland

07-02-2006 21:44:16




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
A fool and his money are soon parted , find an old 300 bushel gravity wagon have a roll tarp made and buy it at the elevator much cheaper



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farmermatt

07-02-2006 12:54:53




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
Hey fellas, look at it from a sellers point of view. 2.25 at the elevator, haul it in 1000 bu at a time... unscreened. Lets assume his 100 lbs sacks hold the screened corn from approx 2 bushels. Sure he can feed the screening so they have some value. Anyway, sack cost him about $.20-.25. If you dont believe me then go price em. So for the time and effort of cleaning and bagging this grain he gets $2.25/ bag. Sounds good. Probelm is Midwest here only wants about 8 bags at a timne so each time he comes knockin of the door he makes about $20. Sounds like a hassle to me. But wow he must really be getting rich!!! Think about it, would you do it for less??

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John (C-IL)

07-02-2006 11:52:05




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
Bagged corn here in the feed mill will cost you 3.20/ bag or $6.40/cwt.

If you want to buy bulk corn from the mill it will cost you $2.45/ bushel or $4.38/cwt.

I"m with the other guys however, burning corn doesn"t make much sense from a cost stand point. By the time you buy the burner, maintain it, maintain your backup system, and pay retail or higher for your fuel.

It seems to me that the money would be better spent improving the efficiency of your house and current heating system.

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Joe-Bob/IN

07-02-2006 07:52:45




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
Thats not bad, you only paid about $1.50 a bushel more than he gets at the elevator... did he at least buy you dinner and kiss you before commencing Broke Back Mountain acts on ya? Ha ha.



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davpal

07-02-2006 11:00:26




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Joe-Bob/IN, 07-02-2006 07:52:45  
Hope your not laughing at him while your sitting on the computer drinking a 20 oz bottle of pop that you paid $1.39 for at the quick stop!



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Midwest redneck

07-02-2006 10:36:08




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Joe-Bob/IN, 07-02-2006 07:52:45  
What the *ell are you talking about?



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Vern-MI

07-02-2006 07:47:33




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
Do you have an estimate of how many pounds your furnace will burn on an average winter day of 20 to 30 degrees F? Or better yet, how many pounds do you think you will need in a year?



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Midwest redneck

07-02-2006 10:41:39




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Vern-MI, 07-02-2006 07:47:33  
The company that sold me the stove said that during the winter it will burn about 75 pounds per day. About $5/day---not bad considering the price of Propane, which is about $12-15/day. I also bought wood pellets today from the Do-it-best center in town. I bought 2 tons for $485 with tax. I will need about 5 tons of corn/pellets during the season. I figure about $1000 worth of corn and pellets, the propane would be double that. I am tired of getting raped by the oil companies. Too bad my car and my jeep dont run on feed corn.

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BobMo

07-02-2006 10:51:11




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 10:41:39  
Is that same guy selling you propane????? Maybe you should patch a few holes or close some of the windows. My propane isn't cheap but I don't get near that cost..... .
Hope your stove works good based on the price of that corn..... ..... .



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Midwest redneck

07-02-2006 13:19:39




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to BobMo, 07-02-2006 10:51:11  
My house is new, 5 years old. I have vinyl windows, 9" insulation in the ceiling and 3.5" in the walls and I live in Michigan.



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redrunsdeep

07-02-2006 16:55:40




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 13:19:39  
if you want some good ideas for bulk storage and handeling of corn give J&W Corn Fuel Systems a call.

They have some great storage,cleaning,and transfering systems sure beets carrying corn. after my first year that was the only down fall.

shoot me an e mail for there # or email addy if you would like it. they have some good cheap systems avaiable



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BobMo

07-02-2006 14:05:11




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 13:19:39  
Well theres one major problem. The house is built and insulated as if you lived in Oklahoma..... ....



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Easy

07-02-2006 17:39:26




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to BobMo, 07-02-2006 14:05:11  
Hey dude - He is right, it does exceed building code here. But that isn't important. Your attitude is terrible. Get a life!



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Easy

07-02-2006 17:41:08




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Easy, 07-02-2006 17:39:26  
Sorry, thought you were Jo Bob!



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Midwest redneck

07-02-2006 16:31:53




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to BobMo, 07-02-2006 14:05:11  
My house meets and exceeds the building code in some cases. I didnt know we had such an expert in construction on the ytmag site.



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Mark - IN.

07-02-2006 18:09:27




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 16:31:53  
I don't know a thing about corn burners. Pretty good and efficient? I just replaced both upstairs and downstairs LP firepaces back home in Bristol last year with better, more efficient LP jobs, but never really use them much, mostly for company. Have two furnaces, both LP too, but the house is overly insulated, so have been ok so far from heat in the summer, cold in the winter. LP aint cheap though, and corn is abundant, as are trees in the woods but no one's gonna clean the chimeny and fireplace but...me, when I'm home to enjoy them.

The place that I rent for the work week in Joliet is brutal. Brutal. Makes for excellent sleeping at night in the winter though...just pile on the blankets and comforters and snore the night away.

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billyiron

07-02-2006 07:26:59




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 Re: Bought me some corn for the stove..... in reply to Midwest redneck, 07-02-2006 04:34:13  
wish I could sell some for that price,,,



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