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Binder-Man

06-04-2006 10:40:44




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I am going to pour a floating slab 12ft.by 5ft.it is on level ground, I had a person tell me to remove the sod before pouring concrete. I will have plenty of reenforcement in the slab to hold her together. What is the difference between sod or dirt?

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Binder-Man

06-04-2006 18:39:22




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 Re: Remove or not??? in reply to Binder-Man, 06-04-2006 10:40:44  
Hey thanks guys for the info-The sod will be removed tomarrow, and put down a good gravel base. I bought a new wood fired boiler, this is what will be setting on the pad, so I want it right the first time!!! I just can't pay these energy bills anymore, Thanks again for the info.....I live in Northwest ILLinois...

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Eddie M

06-04-2006 19:01:57




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 Re: Remove or not??? in reply to Binder-Man, 06-04-2006 18:39:22  
Good choice. Also, drilling footings down can cause the slab to crack because the frost will push them differently than the slab, which can move up and down. Here in Minnesota, when I pour a slab that has footings for posts, an expansion joint must be installed so the slab can move independently of the footings.



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Grabatire

06-04-2006 16:09:30




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 Re: Remove or not??? in reply to Binder-Man, 06-04-2006 10:40:44  
By all means remove it. This coming from personal experience. I had a 12X16 slab reinforced criss-cross with half inch rebar and even drilled some eight inch holes, which I filled with concrete and rebar, four feet deep at all corners and midway down the sides for extra support. My project was for a storage shed and after a few winters the frost played havoc on the slab. For the second shed (same size as the first) I removed the sod and put down eight inches of gravel. After 8 years the slab was as good as new so I removed the shed from the first slab and redid it the same as the second one. Now after 6 years it too is just fine. In my case both buildings are unheated but I believe the gravel gives the moisture a place to wick out to the edges so the frost doesn't have so much fun.

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Joe in MN

06-04-2006 15:01:30




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 Re: Remove or not??? in reply to Binder-Man, 06-04-2006 10:40:44  
Oh Heck ---- maybe yur into having the color of green on the bottom side, ya can always hope the green will bleed through --- that way ya won't have to paint the slab on top, Green slab is nice color ya know....



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06-04-2006 11:41:51




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 Re: Remove or not??? in reply to Binder-Man, 06-04-2006 10:40:44  
yep sod gotta go,it rots and will act like a big sponge sucking up water, if your in a cold climate freeze thaw thing happens and slab moves etc. best to not only get rid of sod but also all organic soil and build up with good packing sand or gravel



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Eddie M

06-04-2006 10:57:01




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 Re: Remove or not??? in reply to Binder-Man, 06-04-2006 10:40:44  
Sod decomposes. Get rid of it. Not that big a deal on a small slab, but it will affect the integrity of it.



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BobMo

06-04-2006 10:56:43




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 Re: Remove or not??? in reply to Binder-Man, 06-04-2006 10:40:44  
I think you need to remove it, otherwise how you gonna mow it?



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toolman

06-04-2006 14:45:17




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 Re: Remove or not??? in reply to BobMo, 06-04-2006 10:56:43  
He could get one of them underslab mowers bob.



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