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Can you still buy good rope?

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Quebec Bob

05-29-2006 10:19:21




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Does anyone know where a man can still by rope that is worth owning? I have had it with that yellow nylon (or whatever it is) stuff that if you leave it in the sun for half a day is so dry and brittle and even at the best of times is unreliable.




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MarkB_MI

05-30-2006 03:43:27




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 Re: Can you still buy good rope? in reply to Quebec Bob, 05-29-2006 10:19:21  
You can get good rope (or "line", as the yachtsmen call it) at a marine hardware store. It tends to be pricey, but sometimes you can stumble on to a good deal. I bought 300 feet of very good 5/8" nylon from the local West Marine store. A yachtey had special ordered it and didn't pick it up. Since it was cut the store couldn't send it back; they sold it to me for half price as long as I took it all.

When buying line at a marine hardware store, be aware that there are two main types: nylon and dacron (aka polyester). You probably want nylon; dacron is a low stretch fiber normally used for halyards and other boat rigging.

The yellow stuff you're talking about is polypropylene. It's only virtue is that it floats; you don't want to use it for any other purpose as it is quite weak.

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

05-30-2006 15:22:22




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 Re: Can you still buy good rope? in reply to MarkB_MI, 05-30-2006 03:43:27  
I agree that marine-style braided lines are far superior to the yellow twisted variety for most things, but I keep a 40' piece of 1" yellow stuff in my SUV for use as a tow rope. If I throw my Toyota against the end of that rope it works like a bungee cord, protecting both vehicles from shock and extending the impact of the tug.

This stretchiness can go to extremes, as two small towns in Germany found a few years ago in their annual tug-of-war across the adjoining river. Seems at the climax of the contest the yellow rope snapped, whipped back and decapitated two people. Many lawsuits ensued.

Back to the yellow rope: its only marine use is for towing dinghies. Because it doesn't sink and is relatively stiff when wet, it holds the little boat away from the mother ship when at anchor, greatly reducing those annoying bumps in the night.

There's a rope guy who comes to local flea markets and sells hanks of marine-style braided line at good prices. I can usually get 60' of usable line (1/2"??) for about $8.00 CDN. Sometimes the colours are outlandish, but it's great for lashing things onto a trailer and cheap enough to cut.

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TGIN

05-30-2006 02:40:00




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 Re: Can you still buy good rope? in reply to Quebec Bob, 05-29-2006 10:19:21  
Tree Trimers use the good stuff .



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frankiee

05-29-2006 12:45:11




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 Re: Can you still buy good rope? in reply to Quebec Bob, 05-29-2006 10:19:21  
Link
The marine industry has a lot to choose from.



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Rustyj14

05-29-2006 11:05:33




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 Re: Can you still buy good rope? in reply to Quebec Bob, 05-29-2006 10:19:21  
No, but you can make yer own! just go where the wet-back ladies get their hair cut, and gather up lots of the hair they get cut off, and then you kin set and braid up all the rope you need! Otherwise, i'm at a loss to tell you where to get good rope, unless you go to an old farm auction, and buy a hank or two! Or maybe go to Amish country--they may still make and use good rope, or tell you where to get it! Seems to me there should still be good rope available here in USA. Talk to some construction people, or somebody in the Fire Service. I know, in our Fire company, we can still get good ropes for our uses! Might be a bit pricey, but of course, those companies figure "Safety First", so they charge lots more than ropes for farmers, etc. Rustyj

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Matt from CT

05-29-2006 19:19:08




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 Re: Can you still buy good rope? in reply to Rustyj14, 05-29-2006 11:05:33  
If you're going the "fire" route, you could go to a recreational (rock climbing, etc) store instead.

Again, pretty pricey for "utility" use but good stuff, and less than life safety / rescue rope.

Biggest difference between Rescue and Recreational is for a their rated capacity, Rescue achieves it without stretching (called Static Kermantle), while Recreational stretches which lets it hold more weight with less rope. The stretchiness is good for absorbing impacts of a short fall...but could cause problems in a rescue situation if it stretches where you don't want it to go.

I carried a short length of rope bought at a hiking store as my "utility" line in my bunker pants.

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