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Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground

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Glenn F.

05-14-2006 06:36:10




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As I drive around the country(NE WI) I fairly often see pole buildings lifting out of the ground at various points. Sure ruins the looks(and function?)of a building. What causes this? How can it be prevented? Thanks, Glenn F.




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Easy

05-14-2006 16:32:27




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to Glenn F., 05-14-2006 06:36:10  
I put mine in 4ft deep. We have good drainage here, sand mostly. I put concrete in, 3-4 bags, filled the holes up maybe 3 feet, then tamped dirt in around. 17 years and it hasn't screwed up yet.



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4010guy

05-14-2006 11:23:23




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to Glenn F., 05-14-2006 06:36:10  
A high watter tabel will push poles out of the ground---I have even seen it on rea poles



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K-Mo

05-14-2006 09:18:21




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to Glenn F., 05-14-2006 06:36:10  
Some say use concrete, others say don't. Most of the construction plans I have seen nail a couple pieces of treated lumber to the sides of the post near the bottom. It gives the post some gripping power. The plans also specify a concrete pad in the hole for the post to sit on.



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FredWi

05-14-2006 09:12:05




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to Glenn F., 05-14-2006 06:36:10  
Your post should be set below the line of frost,
set on top of a concrete cookie with a rebar running around the bottom of the cookie and up the side of your post alittle ways and anchored
into the post. The cookie will keep the post from
settling and the anchored rebar will keep it from
lifting in the wind.



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Mike M

05-14-2006 18:32:53




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to FredWi, 05-14-2006 09:12:05  
We put up a Lester pole building a long time ago and it used this system. Seemed like a good idea ,but I have not seen any other buildings built like it around .



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Dusty

05-14-2006 08:50:18




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to Glenn F., 05-14-2006 06:36:10  
When I added to my shop Morton spected the poles to be set on concrete and a pin through the pole a few inches up from the bottom, and concrete over the pin. The local building inspector did not want concrete around the pole. Morton is warrantying the building, so guess who I listened to?

Dusty



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BarnYard4020

05-14-2006 07:41:35




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to Glenn F., 05-14-2006 06:36:10  
Unless you are digging your holes and setting your poles below frost level you are wasting your time. At least 3 feet or more is advisable with good drainage.



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Steve Crum

05-14-2006 07:21:09




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to Glenn F., 05-14-2006 06:36:10  
I can't say as I've heard about moon phases and polebarn construction. (moon phases and how easy Mama is to get along with) is quite a different theory. Anyhow... I've had a hand in building at least a dozen polebarns here in the Northeast, And have found it highly advantagious to set the poles five feet deep to ground level. This depth pretty much insures the footer of the pole will be below the frost line. Drainage around the pole is very important. And if the pole is not concreted in, the fill around it should be clay or hardpan and tamped in tight to prevent water build up in the hole, which when it freezes is what actually causes the pole to heave or push out of the ground.

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Midwest redneck

05-14-2006 07:10:59




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to Glenn F., 05-14-2006 06:36:10  
I would think that frost heaves the post(s) upward.



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bill jones

05-14-2006 07:07:45




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to Glenn F., 05-14-2006 06:36:10  
My grandparents and my father-in-law were great believers in moon signs, their therory was any and all posts set in the dark of the moon will never rise up after set. I have followed this practice and have never had one rise up. // bill



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buickanddeere

05-15-2006 19:28:58




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 Re: Pole Buildings Lifting Out of The Ground in reply to bill jones, 05-14-2006 07:07:45  
My Grand Father was a Moon Dogger etc. The old fool worked hard his entire life but only had six half staved kids to show for it who never seen a dentist or new clothes.



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