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How to make shop floor drain

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neblinc

05-10-2006 09:34:30




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Hopefully my shop will be started next week and I am in the process of getting bids for concrete. I want to put in a drain for the garage part so rain & snow can drain into it.
Do I need anything special?

Randy




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Gumby

05-11-2006 10:55:29




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 Re: How to make shop floor drain in reply to neblinc, 05-10-2006 09:34:30  
I've got a drain in my shop floor that goes to a large "settling" box or mud box (for lack of a better term). It does catch the mud, but I installed it myself and I live in the country. When we built a house on the same property 3 years ago, the licensed plumber doing the work had to follow state code (for Illinois) which required certain specifications for installation in a residential garage. The state changed the code somewhat during the construction of the house and I was able to use a system without a very expensive oil trap.

Might want to check local codes if you're in the city limits.

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neblinc

05-11-2006 10:10:41




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 Re: How to make shop floor drain in reply to neblinc, 05-10-2006 09:34:30  
Great info everyone.
I will be sure and ask the concrete guys what they can do for me.

Thanks!
Randy



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Hal/WA

05-10-2006 22:57:39




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 Re: How to make shop floor drain in reply to neblinc, 05-10-2006 09:34:30  
When I built my attached garage, I put in a floor drain, right in the center of the floor. The flat work contractor put a slight slope from all 4 directions so the drain off from melting snow or ice on vehicles goes in the drain. It is also handy for washing vehicles inside. I used a heavy plastic box made for the purpose and the contractor put it into the floor like a little form. The box is connected to regular plastic sewer pipe and goes to the foundation perimiter drain system. There is a steel grate that fits into the top of the box. I was a little worried about the plastic box being durable enough, but we have driven over it thousands of times and it seems the same as when it was installed. The box also catches most sediment, rather than putting it down the drain pipe. I clean it out about once a year. I was able to buy all the parts to the system at Home Depot for around $100. My flatwork contractor seemed quite expensive, but I think it was worth it--the floor is great and it drains just like I planned it to.

Having a drain go to the opening for the overhead door might work well in some areas, but here where it sometimes gets extremely cold, I would worry about it freezing and maybe breaking in the winter. Also, just draining to the outside might allow mice or other critters an easy way in.

There is no better time to put in a drain system than now. I would suggest talking it over with whoever is doing your floor, and if they aren't pretty sure they can do it right, you might want to get someone else. There is a lot of "art" in doing flatwork. You want to get it right the first time... Good luck, let us know how it comes out!

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Dusty

05-10-2006 16:55:47




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 Re: How to make shop floor drain in reply to neblinc, 05-10-2006 09:34:30  
Here in Michigan, due to EPA, we are not allowed to put floor drains a garage/shop.

Dusty



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george md

05-10-2006 11:01:30




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 Re: How to make shop floor drain in reply to neblinc, 05-10-2006 09:34:30  
Randy ,

Slope the floor toward the door ( not more than an inch in 10 ft) , put a small trough across

inside the door with a drain in the trough to the

outside , cover the trough with grating.

If youare ever going to use a creeper , a jack

or a floor jack in the bay , DO NOT use a 4 way

slope to a drain , those 4 way slopes are for

looks not practicality. Creeper run down hill,

jacks tip over , and floor jacks buckle over

and are destroyed.

george

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Billy NY

05-10-2006 10:12:58




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 Re: How to make shop floor drain in reply to neblinc, 05-10-2006 09:34:30  
You'll want to make sure the drain is centered and out of the way of traffic of anything with tires or tracks etc., make sure the slab is adequately sloped to it, you don't need much for water to run, and make sure there is a drain trap to make a barrier for odors. Use a good quality floor drain with a sand trap.

Also take a 2nd look at anything else you may want to stub up for in this new shop, in the future, like mechanical, electrical, communication, and or plumbing as well, even if just left for future use, lot easier than chopping and digging later.

I never realized that my dad plumbed in the waste pipe to the septic system for a toilet in what was supposed to be a mud room in the cellar when the house was built in the late 70's. I was suprised to find the toilet flange so I just added the water lines and bolted on a toilet, grouted it to the slab in '04, sure made it an easy task to make another bathroom in the house, convienently located in the cellar which is actually what I use for a garage and work shop, am very fortunate to have a space that would fit 4 cars and stays about 55 deg in the winter, with another equal sized area beyond that, now if I just had a higher ceiling, LOL ! I can almost squeeze my F-600 in, if I let some air of the tires.

Also consider where the drain pipe will lead to, this one here daylights to the surface 100 yds away and mostly evaporates on the surface, the area stays wet and is probably a mosquito haven. I should put another dry well in, I don't wash anything harsh down the drain, just water and rarely some suds. We kept all of our waste lines seperate, toilets only to the septic no other waste water, all other waste water only to the seperate dry well, both are oversized and have performed great for almost 30 years.

Couple of thoughts here, it's always good to get suggestions when building, might help you avoid forgetting something important, prompt you to think of something useful to have or even just a better way of doing something.

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bradk

05-10-2006 09:53:24




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 Re: How to make shop floor drain in reply to neblinc, 05-10-2006 09:34:30  
If you get a GOOD,EXPERIENCED mason,he'll know exactly how to do it.Mine is about 1 1/2'wide x 6' long and 2' deep and a recessed,reinforced piece of expanded metal covers it.~brad



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