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Shopguy

03-05-2001 17:24:09




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I see plenty of trailer knowlege here so wounder if anyone would comment on a project i started in the fall.It's a trailer for a buddies 16' alu. bow rider.boat motor& gear is antisipated at 1200 to 1500 lbs.for the tounge i used 16'3x3x1/8.Side rails are2x3x.100x5'with 4 cross memberes of 2x2x.100 veed to the angle of the hull equi-spaced and welded to the side rails.The tounge is welded to the 2 forward cross members.2 aditional 2x3x.100 rails go from the outer corners forward to the tounge.I'm useing vw rims and spindles on a2x2x.250 axel with a 66" track and 2500 lb springs.Not shure where to set the axel.Any comments on strength/weight etc?
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Al

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Nathan(GA)

03-05-2001 20:41:40




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 Re: trailer knowlege in reply to Shopguy, 03-05-2001 17:24:09  
clickent and BFO have some good advice. I will add that my uncle has a trailer with VW hubs. He hauled a International cub 154 and many other things and has never had a problem. Your results may vary.



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BFO

03-05-2001 20:30:59




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 Re: trailer knowlege in reply to Shopguy, 03-05-2001 17:24:09  
Al, you have to determine the centre of mass of the boat, and it's distance from the center of the tongue. Then you divide by the percentage of weight that you want the axle to carry. This will give you the center of the axle. This is on the Dexter site.
As far as the rest of it, the only concern I have would be with using .100" wall tubing for the main frame. There is the potential for cracking where the spring hangers are welded to it. Also, don't forget about putting caster and camber in the axle. Although I do make axles, I would recommend buying an axle with stanard hubs/wheels/tires instead of messing with VW parts. For corrosion, I've had good luck with Corrostop by Sico (cheap), or using an epoxy primer and Acrythane also by Sico (expensive). Bill

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clickent

03-05-2001 20:00:21




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 Re: trailer knowlege in reply to Shopguy, 03-05-2001 17:24:09  
I have built hundreds of utility and single purpose trailers so here is my nickels worth.

First of all, well done. It sounds like you have thought out the structural aspects very well. However here are a few things to consider.

1) What material is it made of and how will you finish it? Corrosion is the biggest enemy of any boat trailer.

2) Have you thoroughly thought through the tongue height? Sounds like it may be too low depending on how your tongue is attached.

3) Are you sure your spindles and wheels are up to the task? Your average VW weighs about as much as a can of soup. It sounds as though you have engineered a stout trailer. It would be a shame if your spindles broke or if you couldn't get tires that were rated high enough for those small rims.

4) Axle placement is going to be your toughest challenge. You have the opportunity to get this trailer absolutely right but you have really got to think this through. Forget general rules or such things that others may tell you. Go to the Dexter Axle website and learn about proper axle placement then apply that knowledge. The last special purpose trailer I built was my welding trailer. I have a welding business and this trailer has everything I need to do my job. The welder is mounted over the axle but in my calculations I realized that 1/2 inch differance in axle placement or position of the welder would make several percentage points differance in the tongue weight. I recommend placing the axle to your best calculations (including the boat) then place the loaded boat on the trailer and adjust it forward or back to achieve the correct tongue weight. Once you have figured the correct positon attach your mounting hardware so the boat is always loaded in that position.

Hope that helps, Terry

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Shopguy

03-06-2001 03:38:17




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 Re: Re: trailer knowlege in reply to clickent, 03-05-2001 20:00:21  
Thanks for looking things over guys.forgot to mention i mounted the springs to a 3'3x2x1/8 piece of angle that i plan on bolting to the frame rails.I hope this adresses Bills concerns.The jury is still out on the vw parts,but i am a big vw fan and believe they over build every thing.Tounge hieght matches tow viecle at 17".
Thanks again
Al



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