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Rigid Hone

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Bob Underwood

05-09-2006 09:12:00




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Would appreciate any tips on use of rigid cylinder hone.
Thank you,
Bob




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dr.sportster

05-09-2006 14:30:18




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 Re: Rigid Hone in reply to Bob Underwood, 05-09-2006 09:12:00  
Never let the hone come out of the bore when its still spinning.[by controlling the amount extending out each end by less than 50%]That gets ugly.Also some coarser stones make nasty deep grooves.Dont try to hone .010 over either you cant control taper enough and must bore first.Ive done it with poor results and it takes about 8hrs stroking the hone.I get new stones [extra fine] for each job.The guy that does my boring has a diamond set-up to true his stones I dont so I spend fifteen bucks each time for new ones.Clean all abrasive mterial from bores when done honing.If crank is still in motor cover crank with damp brown paper.

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Bob Underwood

05-10-2006 00:20:22




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 Re: Rigid Hone in reply to dr.sportster, 05-09-2006 14:30:18  
Thanks for all the replys. This is an old Ammco hone have new stones. To get started it says to have enough pressure to hold the hone in the cylinder and then add one turn on the adjustment how does that sound. This is just something I wanted to do figured might be my only chance. I am a bit concerned now for I do have to remove about .010. could not buy .010 oversize.
Bob



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george md

05-10-2006 10:51:24




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 Re: Rigid Hone in reply to Bob Underwood, 05-10-2006 00:20:22  
Bob, Bore it first , leave .002 to hone .

george



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Bob Underwood

05-11-2006 04:13:41




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 Re: Rigid Hone in reply to george md, 05-10-2006 10:51:24  
OK George. How to obtain the best cross hatch. Will be using a 3/8 drill the stones are 220. Thanks Bob



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george md

05-11-2006 11:21:33




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 Re: Rigid Hone in reply to Bob Underwood, 05-11-2006 04:13:41  

Bob,

3/8 drill is way too fast and does not have anywhere near the torque needed to turn a hone.
You will need a healthy 1/2 " drill and be prepared to hold on to both handles securely . The reason I use air drill , is that it will stop instantly when you let go of the trigger, electric drills take a while to wind down and during that time if you have hung the stones in the webbing one
of 2 things will happen. If you hold on tight , you break the hone , or if you let go the drill motor winds the cord around itself. Had a very big man working for me about 20 years ago that was going to show me that he knew how to hone an engine. Well with an electric drill he hung the stones in the webbing , he let go , the drill kicked him in the crotch , rest assured it will bring tears to a big man's eyes.

Drill should not run more than 450 rpm.

george

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george md

05-09-2006 10:48:31




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 Re: Rigid Hone in reply to Bob Underwood, 05-09-2006 09:12:00  
Bob,

Bryan has covered it well , but one comment

use a drill that is slower about 400 to 450

otherwise you cannot stroke fast enough to get

the proper crosshatch pattern.

I use a 1/2 inch air drill to drive the hone,

that way if you catch the webbing the drill will

stall without doing any damage to the hone . I

have an engine rebuild shop and have been using

the air drill for about 20 years , also they

last longer than electric drill for that service.

george

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Bryan in Iowa

05-09-2006 11:02:04




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 Re: Rigid Hone in reply to george md, 05-09-2006 10:48:31  
yep ,,sorry had wrong rpm.. brain fade there . I bought a angle drill from Harbor Freight for $99. similar to a Milwakee hole hawg . Had real good luck with it ,,2 speed too .



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Bryan in Iowa

05-09-2006 10:19:59




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 Re: Rigid Hone in reply to Bob Underwood, 05-09-2006 09:12:00  
GET A BIG DRILL!!! lol Rigid hones take pretty good drill to turn, 1000 rpm or so ,not to fast or you won't have enough crosshatch. Be carefull on your downstrokes so you do catch stones on any main brg webs or castings . It'll really turn you around and ruin stones .Make sure to use plenty of honing oil ,,I built a "Honing Tank" similar to solvent tank , has a pump and nozzle to direct oil to cylinder being honed . Depending how much material I am removing ,,I like to start out with 100 grit ,,300 ,,then finish off 600 ..for real nice finish ,there is a honing brush that i run through last , has real fine grit embedded in it .

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