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paul

04-30-2006 18:21:50




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I want an air framing nailer. I kinda think Stanley Bostich (sp?) is the popular one around here, what I would lean to but open to suggestions.

I'm Joe Farmer, will have some odds & ends building stuff to do over the next 20 years. 2x construction & reconstruction. No specialized thing, all types.

First job to pay it off is nailing down 4x8 over BiL's existing upper barn floor 1x planks to make it stronger for general storage. Then on to my many projects over the years....

There are coil, straight, and a couple different angled nailers it seems.

What do I want, what works best for general all types of things, what don't I want?

Help.

--->Paul

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Dachshund

05-03-2006 04:45:59




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
The Paslode is a good machine. I have a couple Senco guns also - they are great machines, also. I bought my framing nailer at a pawn shop for $50 about 10 years ago and put about 50,000 nails through her. One of the best $50 I ever spent! Can't live without it, now! Oh - it's a Cambell-Hausfeld. Shoots same nails as Stanley. Never had any luck with Stanley - they work great-for awhile, then die.

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big jt

05-02-2006 21:51:37




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
I have done just about the same thing as CJ3 Jeep. Bought one on ebay, then a orange one from a pawn shop then bought another black one at a farm sale with a finish nailer because it was to cheap.

Orange ones are much easier to get batteries for.

For your Joe Farmer use (Fits me also) the cordless Paslode's can't be beat. Grab the case and nails and you are good to go. No need for a compresser or hose.

If you need to buy a compresser the Paslode's are cheaper also.

JM2CW

jt

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cj3b_jeep

05-02-2006 05:25:37




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
I've got the paslode impulse, it's a great gun we picked up at a pawn shop when we built our house. I love it for everything except putting sheeting down on a roof. It nails just great, but because it's cordless, you really have to work to set it down on a roof and make it stay, with an attached air hose, it's much easier to make it stay on the roof.



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JohnDeereGreen

05-01-2006 12:32:34




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
Yep, Stanly makes good products, but have you looked at Hitachi or Porter Cable? A friend of mine has practicly beat the tar out of his Hitachi and Porter Cable guns, and they keep coming back for more. I personally have a Porter Cable framing, finish, brad and stapler and love them all. Also, make sure you get one that shoots full head nails, not the clipped head. Some building codes won't allow them(clipped). Simplicity is a must, cause ya sometimes have to adjust on the job. Lots easier to turn a knob then fiddle with some tool thingamajig. Trust me, I've been there.

Whatever you choose, it'll be lots easier than hammering by hand. Good luck, and let us know how you like whatever you get.
JohnDeereGreen

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paul

05-01-2006 21:34:43




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to JohnDeereGreen, 05-01-2006 12:32:34  
I"m close to an hour from any box store. The mom & pop lumber yards around here carry Stanley nails, and perhaps one other brand. I can get Stanley nails in 10 minutes or less from 6 locations, I don"t really know for sure on any other brand but probably only 1 or 2 to choose from, if that....

Just wondering if I want an angled nailer, straight, or coiled. Coiled would seem bulky & more fuss with coils, I"m guessing angled is more versitle?

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Kelly Campbell

05-01-2006 08:34:11




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
I've got a paslode cordless nailer, works great and best part is that your not teathered to anything. Paslode also makes air nailers as well, many people in my area are either using them or a hitachi.



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Bill in NorthCentral Pa

05-01-2006 12:54:49




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to Kelly Campbell, 05-01-2006 08:34:11  
I would second the Paslode. I use mine all the time because it is so easy to slap in the battery and go to work. I have had no problems with mine and I only clean it when I have a chance. I use it for everything from 3.25" framing nails to 2.25" galvanized ring shank sheathing nails. The gas cylinders seem to last forever and the battery lasts longer than I want it to! If I was a framing contractor on jobsites, I would probably recommend an air system, but on my farm and with remodel projects, the portability can't be beat. I'm cheap and if i were buying again, I'd buy the Paslode Impulse.

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Chris(WA)

05-01-2006 05:39:06




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
I talked to the guys at several lumber yards before I bought mine to see what the pros used. Almost to a man they said go with a Hitachi.Not so much as how superior a gun they are but how durable and easy/inexpensive to kit they are. They advised me to go to a pawn shop and pick up a used one that was not real beat up looking and then put a kit in it. That is just what I did and what a nice tool! $150 including the kit later and it works great. Shoots full head strip nails as fast as you can bang er down. For smaller stuff I have a Grizzly nailer/stapler. It is a slick tool to in its range of nail sizes.

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VADAVE

05-01-2006 04:59:17




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
Had a Harbor Freight special, worked fine, built one pole building. However when it came time for a repair it was impossible as apparently these are put together by hand and spare parts just do not fit.
Next a Hatichi(sp) which really is nice. It shoots 2 inch to 3.5 inch nails as fast as you want to. I wasn't sure on coil or stick but I do believe that stick is best simply because of reloading ease and speed.
Also consider a full head nailer. Loads up slightly less nails but they hold better.

Nailing 4X8's better use 2 inch or less and dial back the air pressure. Oh yeah you want one that you can hold the trigger and bounce the nailer to drive nails.

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evielboweviel

05-01-2006 03:15:26




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
I prefer Senco and have decided the coil nailers are best for me 2-SCN65, also have a Senco IV from the 80's a strip nailer rugged as all get out. Along with other assorted guns. Never had any luck with Paslode.
Coil nailers are easy to get nails for seems like they take the same nail wire weld with full head. Probably has changed as it was too easy to get nails for.
Good luck
Ron



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msb

04-30-2006 19:50:37




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
I rented a Senco nailer several years ago.Liked it so well,I just bought it.Rental companies will sometimes sell their used ones for about half price.I think they are about all good these days.Have a Craftsman finish nailer and it is a good one too.



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mud

04-30-2006 19:28:55




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
I have an Hitachi framing gun. Had it since '91.
Got it in a swap. It was used. Put one rebuild kit in it. Built a lot of decks, framed a bunch of houses. Now it only gets occasional use. Still shoots good. Lightweight, good design, uses strip nails. Has all the power you will need.



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glennster

04-30-2006 19:22:54




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to paul, 04-30-2006 18:21:50  
i have several nailers, the stanley is a good unit. will shoot 3-1/2 framing nails. should handle most any thing you got. if you dont have access to an air compressor the paslode nailers are real nice. they use a fuel cell and a battery and can go anywhere. the cycle time is not quite as fast as an air nailer but the portability is a big plus. no compressor, no hoses. senco also makes a nice nailer. which ever you choose, be sure you can get nails for it. seems like each manufacturer likes thier nails only.

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Pooh Bear

04-30-2006 22:55:19




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to glennster, 04-30-2006 19:22:54  
DuoFast is another good brand.
The DuoFast nailer I got had a lifetime warranty.

Pooh Bear



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TimS

05-01-2006 08:13:39




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 Re: framing nailer in reply to Pooh Bear, 04-30-2006 22:55:19  
I have a Senco framing and finish nailer and a Hitachi coil roofing nailer ( which is also good for nailing plywood etc ), so those are two I can recomend highly.

Never had a bit of problem with either one, but there are lots of places to get service or parts if needed.

I finished the basement in my first house pounding the nails by hand, the second house I had an air compressor and the finish and framing nailers. Much better result, much less work. I could concentrate on building and not worry so much about how I was going to drive the nail in where it needed to go...haha.

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