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Leon

03-03-2001 18:14:56




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Fellows I don't feel comfortable posting this subject here but I don't know where else to go.
I want to buy a good home use table saw and need advice on what brand to buy. I am probably looking at the $300.00 to $400.00 range. Is the direct drive OK or should I get belt drive. If this subject does not belong here, please direct me to where I should go. Thanks Leon




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Leon

03-04-2001 20:18:22




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
OK Guys Got a lot of good advise. Price kept me from heeding all of it.
Went to Lowe's today and bought a RYOBI BT3000.
Has stand and dust catcher bag with it for $348.00
Additionally I purchased the wide table kit.
I think this was about as good as I could do for the money. Had looked for about a year for a quality used one with no luck. If I messed up it wasn't the 1st time or will it be the last time.
I appreciate all who responded. Leon

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Lotsofdust

03-04-2001 15:49:35




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
Hi,
Take a look at www.woodweb.com
Look at WoodNetWork Forum
Type in request for info and there are many who will help you.
Personally, I'd not purchase Delta, Grizzly, or other cheaper brands. You gets what ya pays for.
I buy Powermatic. It is easier on the mind. Less downtime. Good Luck



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Scott Green

03-04-2001 15:38:05




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
Leon , I noticed a few people that replied to this post had mentioned buying a GOOD used table saw over a new one. I agree with that 100% (Contractor or heavyer grade). Lots of good table saws out there. Look in the swap sheet , papers , etc.. You can get a real good used table saw for the same price , if not less money than a new cheapy. Everyone likes "Brand New". But when it comes to table saws for home use , new can be foolish. Look at trucks , cars , etc.. You can buy a real good used one for a lot less money than a new one. And it still looks and drives like new. Everyone on the road thinks you bought it new. The only difference is in the wallet.

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April

01-31-2004 10:25:50




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 Re: Re: Table Saw in reply to Scott Green, 03-04-2001 15:38:05  
Name two primary cuts made on the table saw



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Earl Borchardt

03-04-2001 11:37:55




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
Just got a new 10" Ridged at Home Depot in Tucson. Have not had a chance to really put it to work yet but it seems to do a good job of cutting 45s after we got it set up. Put them together and actually got a 90. On another issue there was some input on steel buildings. Does anyone have more to say on the subject? I think I want one.



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VaTom

03-04-2001 10:13:51




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
Hi Leon, obviously your question was well received. We even dealt with plate joiners awhile back. As a professional woodworker, I'll stick my nose up in the air. "Home use" can mean all sorts of things. Contractor saws are just that. Add a good fence and you can do decent sheet good work.

I've known several shops that used a contractor's saw (usually Delta) with an after-market fence. If you're doing a lot of ripping of lumber or sheet goods, the fence is the most important part. Can cost almost as much as a saw. If you're mostly cross-cutting, any saw with miter slots and a homemade sliding table will work great. Ripping needs a lot more power. I routinely rip 2-4" thick stock and recently purchased a larger saw. Three guys at the auction came up as I was bidding to tell me it was 3 phase. Nice of them, but that particular saw easily accomodates a different motor. Not all do. My advice is to buy used and buy bigger unless you need portability. My successful bid was $390. Saw was too big for most (12-14").

Most any saw will do an adequate job if you're patient. If you won't use it much, you don't need much. Better ones make it a lot easier and encourage you to use them more. My compact tractor clearly told me not to bring home anything bigger. Barely got it out of the truck.

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Shopguy

03-04-2001 05:33:22




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
Hi Leon
I have a 10" Busy bee that can be had new in your price range.It's a genaric unit that i have seen labled as king,tradesmaster,general etc.and is good value for the money.Full size,all cast iron table(including wings),36" tube fence rails that can be offset to either side of the blade,1.5hp belt drive.Ad a decent carbide blade and take your time setting up and cabnets are a realistic project.I am canadian so don't know if you have busy bee,but like i saib these made in tiawan units are sold under many brands.Ilooked at delta and chose this saw because it is better,just happened to be 40% less.
good luck
Al

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Al English

03-04-2001 04:50:11




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
Hi Leon, I got a used 10" Delta contractors saw for my shop at least 10 years ago. As Scott mentioned, it is not a finish saw. Although I like the saw, it will not make furniture grade cuts. The contractors saw is just that, intended to be dragged from job to job. A cabinet shop saw with the same capacity weighs several times more, and as a result, is much stiffer and more exact.

If you're looking at used Delta contractors saws, there was something about the bearing & shaft on the earlier ones that caused them to be less durable than the later ones(sorry I can't remember exactly what). However, they still hold up pretty well. If you find one with bad bearings and/or shaft the parts are available to fix it, but if you're going to do the repair the price you pay should reflect that.

Due to the location of the motor, direct drive saws have less adjustment & cutting capacity. All things being equal I would only consider one if the price was so good you couldn't refuse it.

I feel that Sears stuff is generally priced a little high for what you get. Most of the time I'll only buy from them when the item is on sale. Good luck...Al English

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Tom R

03-04-2001 04:00:19




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
Leon:

You should be able to buy a new Roybi BT3000 in your price range I have one and am very pleased with it, it is light and easy to transport and so far makes very accurate cuts.

I will inclued a link to a forum where they discuss this saw very frankly the good the bad and the ugly so to speak. Most of the guys here like it but some have moved up to Cabinet Saws (read that as big bucks).

You can look at the BT300 at most home centers such as Home Depot or Menards.

Hope this helps Tom R.

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Scott Green

03-04-2001 01:05:37




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
Leon , I went through this table saw thing also. F-14 has good points. Not a good idea to buy USED bench top table saw. All bench top saws are direct drive. In my reserch , I found the "Royobi" to be the best bench top saw. That was about 11 years ago. I could have used a portable table saw on the job many many times. When I had gotten home , I could put it up on a shelf , out of the way. Like F-14 says , "Rode hard and put away wet". So much for bench top saws. Now let's talk about stationary saws. I'm not a fan of sears power tools either. But I also agree with what F-14 says. Sears does make a good table saw. Like all brands , sears also makes the cheepies. My table saw is the sears contractor model. You can cut 24" each side of the blade. Plenty of power to just push the wood through. I never had a problem with the saw. And it's cut a lot of wood. If you want a good table saw , no matter what the brand is , buy the contractor model. Unless you make your living as a cabinet maker , you don't need a cabinet makers table saw. A cabinet makers saw has three belts inside of a enclosed cabinet. Contractor saws have one belt. Stay away from "Direct Drive" stationary saws. They are the cheepies. And like F-14 says , make shure the saw has a cast iron table.

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jimmyzz

03-03-2001 22:51:08




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
I have the 8" mikita, but he one problem with it is the distance from front edge to blade is shot. you can only crosscut like 6" boards..The ryobi is a lot better for not much more money. Neither are cabinet maker quality saws, but are in your price range. You could also hold out and find better saw used.



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jimmyzz

03-03-2001 22:50:18




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
I have the 8" mikita, but he one problem with it is the distance from front edge to blade is shot. you can only crosscut like 6" boards..The ryobi is a lot better for not much more money. Neither are cabinet maker quality saws, but are in your price range. You could also hold out and find better saw used.



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F14...Well

03-03-2001 18:31:19




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 Re: Table Saw in reply to Leon , 03-03-2001 18:14:56  
As long as your gonna use the table saw to make chocks for your tractor, you're safe ":^)

I just went through this. I spent a bit more ($500) and got a Delta 10" Contractor saw, and I'm VERY pleased.

Stay away from direct drive. That puts all the load on the motor bearings, and accuracy suffers greatly.

What you want to look for is a cast steel table. Stay away from pressed steel (except for the extension tables) or aluminum. Again, it's all about accuracy. Look for a fine tuneable trunnion (the assembly that carries the driveshaft for the saw arbor on belt drive units) so you can square and plumb the blade with the table and the fence. Look for a fence that locks on both front and rear rails.

Delta also has saws in your price range that aren't quite as heavily built. Much as it pains me to say something nice about Sears, Craftsman still makes a pretty good saw for the money. Other good names are DeWalt, Ryobi, Rigid (Sold through Home Depot).

You can frequently get a better saw for the same money by shopping the used equipment columns, IF you know how to check one for wear and abuse. If you go this route STAY AWAY from portable or benchtop saws. They get used hard and put away wet, and spend a lot of time bouncing around in the back of some bozo's pickup truck.

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