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mf294-4

04-05-2006 20:41:58




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Anyone have any experience with electronic truck scales. Brands etc. How suceptable to lightning? Are they user installable? Rough price?




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jeffcat

04-06-2006 15:38:21




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 Re: truck scales in reply to mf294-4, 04-05-2006 20:41:58  
This is why I keep going to this site! I would NEVER think of weighing a truck with two pieces of paper. Sounds like a neat trick. Will have to try it some time. Jeffcat



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thejdman01

04-06-2006 08:07:48




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 Re: truck scales in reply to mf294-4, 04-05-2006 20:41:58  
Air weigh put on my grain truck works very very slick, road commissioner has a real vendetta against grain trucks.
It not only keeps you running at your full potential, it keeps you from costly overweight tickets. For grain, lumber gravel, blacktop haulers etc really are benefitied from scales



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mph

04-05-2006 21:10:30




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 Re: truck scales in reply to mf294-4, 04-05-2006 20:41:58  
Used them on logging trucks 25+ years.Lots of man. out their now SI, lodeck ect. all good when they work. Run you about 3ooo.oo dollars here installed. So unless your haling steady or have to go through a port of intery often.The pay back is ?



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Pooh Bear

04-05-2006 22:17:00




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 Re: truck scales in reply to mph, 04-05-2006 21:10:30  
This is of no help to you whatsoever,
but it is an interesting factoid.
Saw this on Bill Nye The Science Guy.

Park the vehicle on a flat level hard surface.
Take two pieces of cardboard wider than than tires.
Push one piece under the front of a tire as far as it will go.
Place the other piece against the other side of tire.
Measure the distance between them.
Multiply this by the width of the tire touching the ground.
This will give you the surface area of the tire touching the ground.
Measure the air pressure in the tire.
Multiply the air pressure by the surface area
and this will be the weight supported by that tire.
Do it to all the tires and add them all together.
This will give the total weight of the vehicle.
It"s accurate too as long as you measure accurately.

Pooh Bear

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Billy NY

04-06-2006 06:11:54




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 Re: truck scales in reply to Pooh Bear, 04-05-2006 22:17:00  
I had a state trooper use that to write a ticket one time, realizing it was probably an obscurity in the vehicle and traffic law, and the fact that he's pulled me over so many times, ( and I was just a driver at the time, not an owner operator ) he said here is the last of the $100.00 tickets and it was formulated along the lines of what you described, based on the surface area contact of the tires. Boss got a break on that one, was 16 years ago and it was a lot less of a fine than an overweight ticket that I had been given on so many other occasions. When hauling gravel out of pit or fill off a jobsite it is tough to estimate the weights, even when you think it's on the money, it's not.

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mph

04-07-2006 21:06:04




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 Re: truck scales in reply to Billy NY, 04-06-2006 06:11:54  
No way in he-- wood I take a ticket on a pice a paper! I drove truck for over 30 + years thats BS. I don't know how your D.O.T. is getting by with this or any one else! Love to get them in court [rip them a new a-- hole] I don't understand how you could let this happen. What is it you guys just roll over and play dead. Get your head out of your a--and wake UP!



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mph

04-08-2006 07:42:37




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 Re: truck scales in reply to mph, 04-07-2006 21:06:04  
Yep it sure was fun at times,had my share to be sure! But things haved changed. Now days if your in a truck your worng your gulity no matter what.I just get a little po when they [with their god like att.]start giving out bs tickets. Just one of the reasons I only haul local and then its logs & lowboy. You get to know the good ones and the bad. And yes I still like to have a little fun.



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Billy NY

04-07-2006 22:21:30




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 Re: truck scales in reply to mph, 04-07-2006 21:06:04  
No, he didn't actually do the physical work in that manner, then do the calculations and write a ticket based on it, he merely was trying to give me a break by issuing a ticket that had a fine of about $100, he said " tell your boss, here's the last of the $100 tickets " meaning it's one of the few left that weren't a big fine like several thousand dollars.

Now here's a guy who nailed me numerous times for 3 different outfits over a few year period of time, he picked me out of 40 trucks running from a gravel bank to a power company jobsite, haulin gravel, 7000 lbs on the gross over, over on the axles, you name it. It got so regular, no matter where I worked he'd find me, I used to help him set up the scales to get done with it more quickly, I used to get tickets in bulk from this guy no matter who I drove for. Singled out like you would not believe, it was nuts, absolutely nuts.

One thing I did learn is be polite, even act stupid, but never take any shite from them. I've told a few to pound salt, got a free ride to the suite after telling a sargent what I thought, only to get right out and have it tossed out. He was mad I told him to go f himself, that is after one of his mouthy officers got outta line, he figured it out and dropped the whole thing. I asked the officer for help and he told me to f myself, so I politely said same to you, LOL. Sarge tried to get on the runnin board, while I took off, I had to make em run to their patrol cars and chase me, well I stopped just a few blocks up right in the middle of an intersection and left er runnin, while they was cuffin and stuffin my wise a$$ LOL, good ole days. Was young and full of pi$$ and vinegar I suppose, not the nicest thing I did, but I took no crap from no one so I felt they had it coming, payin taxes to be harrassed did not sit well with me then. Sarge says, "why did you say that to me" and I said "your infinitely wise counterpart told me to do the same", when all I did was roll my window down and ask how to get around the fire they were re-directing traffic from, I was supposed to make a delivery there, the place where they made the orginal Troy-Bilt rototillers. Whole incident for nothing.

I could ramble on about stories of all my encounters with the "authorities", best was when one asked me for registration, Ins. card and I let the wind blow them into traffic, " you want me to get those I said ? " he was boilin over, "NO!" then he asked "do you always do 70 in a 55 in front of the police?" ( mind you he was a state park police on the highway )I said I do when they are the park police, he then told me to leave, the papers I let blow away were expired ones LOL - I was a little outta hand in those days.

Pulled out of the JD dealership with a brand new 890 or 990 excavator on the lowboy, had an escort behind me too, soon as I got out of the short secondary road, state boy pulls me over starts asking me questions, wheres the overwidth permit, whats this, whats that... really arrogant like, I answer "I dunno" to most of them, he becomes really agitated quickly and just tells me to leave ! I used to have a blast with them, but driving became such a hassle, I could'nt stand the aggravation, got so many tickets one time, they asked me how much money I had, you're goin to the suite, I told them they had better drive past an ATM, I ain't goin to the joint over tarps, overweight and aggravatged unlicensment that I did'nt cause ( prior outfit didn't pay a no inspection sticker fine, and guess who's license was suspended ? ) On and on, well I went and paid their fine, confronted and told my former employer what jerk he was for a lousy $100 fine, and NEVER, will I allow a ticket to be written in my name, unless a moving violation and I have none of those, kept clean abstract for a long time. They try and write them in your name, I'll tear it up in front of them., needless to say I had enough of the limelight, still do part time gig runnin trailer now though.

So brazin was I then, couldn't get enough trouble without causing my owne too, we had a state police barracks right next to us, and after a long battle with the town, they demo'd the old victorian farm house, huge old place it was, and towards the end, they left a 550 JD dozer on the job, well I proceeded to have to get some use of that, started er up in front of 3 state boys standing there in the parkin lot and took off for hours, figurin no one in their right mind would take a dozer in front of the police right ? But then again, that's me, playin those odds, the obvious might be right in your face and you may not know it. When I came back 2 of them were waitin up for me, gee boys, "don't wait up all night for me", I parked the machine, gave the one guy a little scare as I hit the steering clutch and it jerked his way, he was really ticked off, said "you just took this did'nt you?" ( thinking yeah buddy, you were standin right there, something you don't understand here ? ) The other guy was laughing, ( whom I knew ) he said you'll need to come see me, ok I said, and bid them good evening, walked up the hill to the house for a cold one, nice hot day it was, yep that turned into a rental cost, had to go see George for my appearance ticket, get my nice new unauthorized use charge, it got dropped, but my atty. needed to get paid, I did a lot of work though, darn machine was running on fumes, but runnin when parked, when they tried to start er up, it ran out, took em all day to prim er up. Hey, you demo'd my childhood home, illegally condemned it etc. Demo contractor did not like me ( got an injunction after it started, and had em stopped, boy were we real hard to deal with )

Wake up ? Gee I dunno, I've been givin it right back to em since I was a kid, and at every turn in the road, but mostly in good clean fun, the way things used to be, fun !

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