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Scott

03-02-2001 14:27:26

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Howdy all!

I just bought a new place with a nice 30 x 30 shop which has a 12 x 30 side bay attached to one side. I am planning on getting a large 2 stage compressor for blasting, tools, painting, etc. My question is about compressor placement. Is it OK to put it out in the side bay? I live in North Idaho (Sandpoint) where the temp occassionally gets down to 5 below, runs about 80 in the summer, and the humidity averages about 10%. The side bay is finished and insulated on three sides with one 12 foot end open. There will be no snow or wind, just the temp changes.

Does the compressor need to be inside? If need be, I am building a bathroom in the rear of the sidebay with access to the shop and I can put it in there. I'd prefer to keep the noise down if at all possible.

Thanks!

Scott

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Grove r

03-03-2001 07:00:46

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Re: compressor Location in reply to Scott, 03-02-2001 14:27:26

Hi, Scott, if you are concerned about compressor noise, try removing the compressor from the tank, they are realy great resonators! It requires a bit of work with hydrualic hose for piping, rubber mounts,etc. but in the long term it is well worth it. Try not to mount the motor and compressor to anything hollow, like a wooden floor, gives the same effect as the tank, mounted to a cement floor with rubber mounts, [hocky pucks] works about the best. Hope you enjoy your new shop, REL

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Ray,IN

03-02-2001 19:26:36

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Re: compressor Location in reply to Scott, 03-02-2001 14:27:26

A big temp. difference causes condensation within the pressure tank and lines. I would use a good dryer to protect my air tools and it's a must for sandblasting or painting. Moisture in the sandingblasting will cause oxidation even before you get finished with a large job. Location is a toss up,the other guys have good advice on that.

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Roger

03-02-2001 18:25:37

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Re: compressor Location in reply to Scott, 03-02-2001 14:27:26

Use synthetic oil in temperature below freezing. Remember it will probably freeze off your condensate drain as well. Interestingly, Kaeser rotary screws will not start if the temperature isn't at least +3 Celsius as sensed by the machine. That should tell you something.

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T_Bone

03-02-2001 17:36:16

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Re: compressor Location in reply to Scott, 03-02-2001 14:27:26

Hi Scott, Don't matter one bit as long as rain don't drip on the motor. You will need to service the belts more offten because of the dirt but nothing to worry about. Been servicing compressors in a unheated areas for 30yrs without problems.

T_Bone

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Alan K

03-02-2001 17:12:31

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Re: compressor Location in reply to Scott, 03-02-2001 14:27:26

Compressors like cars have pistons. In cars the major wear on the motor is at start up because over night the oil drains down out of the cylinders and when you first crank up next time it takes a few second for oil to get back up into the cylinders, and its during those few seconds the piston are short on oil that most of the engine wear takes place. Up north in the winter we plug our cars into a block heater than warms the oil and makes it thinner so that it can get back up into the motor as quick as possible and also allows the motor to crank over easier. I'm not a compressor expert but I like the idea of keeping my compressor in a warm start up area - 32 F and up.

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ltf in nc

03-02-2001 17:05:48

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Re: compressor Location in reply to Scott, 03-02-2001 14:27:26

If it is totally unloaded when you start it and you have synthetic oil in the crakcase it should go. Do not undersize the supply line for the power, best to oversize it for your conditions.

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Al English

03-02-2001 16:01:18

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Re: compressor Location in reply to Scott, 03-02-2001 14:27:26

Hi Scott, I've seen a couple of compressors located in insulated lean-too's on the outside of the building. Although the heat from the building probably helps, it is going to get pretty cold in there during a Michigan winter. Neither of the ones I've seen seemed to suffer from the cold. However, I would contact the manufacturer of your comperssor just to be sure. Good luck...Al English

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VaTom

03-02-2001 15:46:15

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Re: compressor Location in reply to Scott, 03-02-2001 14:27:26

Right idea. Put it where you don't have to listen to it. HOWEVER, your motor won't think much of the temps. Presumably won't have much water to drain in the winter, but my outside motor doesn't like to start down below 25* Not much of a problem here in Va. I run I-R two stages and even with warm temps, the motors work pretty hard to get going. Once they get warmed up, no problem.

You could build a small insulated and heated box for winter use that you removed once it got warmed up. Don't know if that would do you with your cold, but the motor would turn. Safer to stick it in the bath. You're not going to let it get very cold. A decent two stage is a lot easier to listen to than little guys.

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Bus Driver

03-03-2001 16:31:05

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Re: Re: compressor Location in reply to VaTom, 03-02-2001 15:46:15

I have decided to put mine on a frame about 6 feet above the floor. The space below will be storage. Servicing the compressor will require a ladder or removing it from the elevated platform. Many will not choose this idea, but I believe the compressor will stay cleaner and be virtually theft proof. My plan has advantages and disadvantages to be sure.

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