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KEB

03-27-2006 20:25:35




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This may sound a little silly, but how do you keep your helmet (& glasses if you wear them) from fogging up when its cool outside. I was trying to do some repairs yesterday, it was about 45-50 degrees in the shop, and every time I put my helmet down it would fog up on the first breath. It got to the point that I would take a deep breath, put the helmet down, weld until I had to exhale, put the helmet up until it cleared, and repeat the process. Not a very efficient approach, plus the welds look like cr*p from all the starting & stopping the bead. I have enough problems making decent welds when I can see what I'm doing...

Has anybody had any success with this anti-fog stuff they sell that's supposed to keep car windows clear? Anybody know of a helmet with vents and/or a shield to keep your breath away from the lens (I've thought about trying to fabricate something like that)? I know part of the problem is I have a relatively short neck, and all the new helmets sit on my chest when they're down far enough to see out of, effectively cutting off one possible air path. However, yesterday I was having the same problem even when I was looking up. I've thought about cutting the bottom off of the helmet to get a little better circulation & wearing a buttoned up collar to keep from burning my neck.

Any ideas? I'm not adverse to buying a (reasonably priced) new helmet if there's one out there that solves the problem. I have several cheapies so replacing them wouldn't be a big loss.

Thanks,

Keith

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woodache

03-30-2006 03:34:40




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 dab of glysrin Re:Question for you welders out the in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Wipe the lens with a little dab of glysrin on a cotton ball you get at the drug store. Cheap to works on any glass fogging aplication. Stays a long time to.



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Storts

03-29-2006 22:03:07




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Well I owned one fo the bigust welding shops in Connecticutt for over 29 years, and employd a lot of welders, and I am here to tell you the secret.
You get yoruself a fresh raw cooking onion, and cut it in half. Then you take the half with the stem end, not the rutes growin from it, and rub it on the inside of your helmut.
Save the onion in a sammich bag for after lunch when you gotta go back to welding. You can put the root end on your sammich at lunch cause it eats fgood but it ain't no help kepin yer helmut clean of fog.
After lunch, cut a slice off the onyun and run\b whats left on the helmut agin.
Works like a charm I tell ya.
Im an epxpert profesional welder and it says so over on WeldingWeb.

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JDB

03-29-2006 10:38:27




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Welders breathe through their ears. At least thats what one of my instructors told me many years ago.



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KEB

03-28-2006 20:28:13




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 Thanks for responses in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Thanks for all the ideas. I'll give some of them a try in the next couple weeks & see how it turns out. The idea of holding the mask instead of wearing it is kind of intrigueing, but I don't know if I'm coordinated enough (or practiced enough) to weld with only one hand.

Keith



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steve333

03-30-2006 18:14:42




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 Re: Thanks for responses in reply to KEB, 03-28-2006 20:28:13  
I think I used to blow a little warm air in there, then wipe the lense clean.Over and over if I have to.Eventually you will get the lense warm.I geuss heat is the key.I would try one of those lense cleaners their talking about too. good luck.



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GregCO

03-28-2006 14:46:52




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Just spit on the inside of the lens and smear it around good and then dry it off good. Works for me. Works for your diving mask too.

Greg



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Vince H

03-28-2006 13:06:09




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
I have a half shield on my hockey helmet and I wipe it down with a little dish detergent before using it. I don't see why it wouldn't work for the welding lense. Just apply a little, wipe it around and wipe it off with a soft rag.



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T_Bone

03-28-2006 08:05:58




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Hi Kieth,

When the tempature drops thru the dew point it's pretty hard to stop fog up. Laying your hood on a heating pad face down will help stop this.

T_Bone



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Chuck (VA)

03-28-2006 05:01:15




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Don"t know if it works on welding helmets or not but clean the inside with a little shaving cream. I use it on my glasses and face shield when grinding. Works reasonably well.



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Chuck (VA)

03-28-2006 04:59:39




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Don"t know if it works on welding helmets or not but clean the inside with a little shaving cream. I use it on my glasses and face shield when grinding. Works reasonably well.



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dab

03-28-2006 02:18:18




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Go to a sport shop or a snowmobile shop. They sell a product called no-fog or fog away. You apply it to your glasses and shield. Works great. My buddy who plays hockey told me about it and I use it for snowmobiling and it keeps my glasses from fogging up in my helmet.



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Dave Grindle

03-27-2006 22:59:29




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
i have the same problem & wear glasses too (double trouble)..... plus my welder's outside so fogging is really bad in the winter OK , solution ..... ..i simply hold the helmet a couple feet from my face & look thru it that way ,,,,,this also eliminates the agrivation of adjusting the head strap to fit the different caps &/or hoods that i might be wearing on any given day



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Rauville

03-28-2006 05:01:03




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to Dave Grindle, 03-27-2006 22:59:29  
I agree with Dave...don't wear the helmet on your head. I've welded for close to 50 years years and have always used a hand-held shield.
So much more comfortable than wearing one.



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CaptRon

03-27-2006 22:02:21




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Are you breathing through your nose? If not you should be. Try using a small heater to warm the lense before you put the helmet on your head.

CaptRon



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Delta Dirt

03-27-2006 20:44:51




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Its a bitch----plus I wear glasses which further fog up.

One thing that will help is to take your torch and gently warm the inside of the helment before you start welding. I have also been tempted to try a dust mask over my mouth and nose. I never have had any luck with the anti fog products---have tried several.

Hoping to learn of something from your post---good question.

Delta Dirt



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old

03-27-2006 20:39:25




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to KEB, 03-27-2006 20:25:35  
Don't know what your doing wrong, I never have any problems with my helmit fogging up on me and I weld when its cold hot or when ever else.



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Keith-OR

03-27-2006 21:44:37




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to old, 03-27-2006 20:39:25  
Now I'm not the only one ribbing you about all the fur that you are culivating....LOL

I still think it is to hide all that ugly. ROTFLMAO

Keith & shawn



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Greg C

03-27-2006 21:11:58




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to old, 03-27-2006 20:39:25  
It's that beard, makes for some great insulation! What do you figure the R value is on that thing? Just ribbin' ya man, I miss being able to have one, can't do it with my job.



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old

03-27-2006 21:46:39




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to Greg C, 03-27-2006 21:11:58  
R value is pretty high on it. I found that out when I still rode motorcycles and lived up north in CT. I cut it off one winter when I lived up there and it was growing back in less then 48 hours



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Stickler

03-28-2006 17:59:40




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 Re: Question for you welders out there in reply to old, 03-27-2006 21:46:39  
Me too. I've had fur on the face all my life since I was old enough to grow it. Too damned cold up here not to have it!



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