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Steve

02-28-2001 19:02:24




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I want to buy a buzz box AC/DC stick welder. Theirs the Lincoln with 225 AC/ 125 DC. I don't know why they haven't up the DC amps. Thiers the Miller Thunderbolt Thats 225AC/150DC. Hobart in the sears catalog thats 235AC/160DC. And Century at TCS thats 225AC/140DC with a power disk control. And last a Dayton the same amperage but has a control arm on the front. Not a pistol grip control. All of these probally don't have a solid copper transformer. I have a Lincoln 225Ac thats in excellent shape that a friend wants to buy. But haven't made up my mind wether to sell it and buy a AC/DC machine. Any opinions on these welders. Thanks for the help.

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Steve

03-01-2001 17:00:48




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 Re: Stck welders in reply to Steve, 02-28-2001 19:02:24  
Thanks for the input. I do like the Lincolns, but might just keep the Ac I have. How about the new miller thunderbolt. I noticed they've changed the amp crank. Moved it to the front bottom. Are they as good as the older thunderbolts that had a crank on top. I gave one of those to my father-in-law 6 years ago that I bought in 93 and it was a nice machine. Traded it for a pickup truck. Thanks .



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Bill

03-01-2001 16:39:16




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 Re: Stck welders in reply to Steve, 02-28-2001 19:02:24  
Here''s my 2 cents worth on this question. I was in the same delima a couple of months ago. Here's what I did and I could not be more satisfied. I purchased the Lincoln 225 ac/dc machine, I cut the leed lines to about 2ft. and added tweco conectors and to this 40ft. of leed and ground. Used #2 wire for this. Although like T bone I probable don't burn over 100 lbs of rods a year, I have been burning the snot out of them the last couple of weeks getting back to where I feel competent in my welding ability. I have used the DC side most of the time and although have stayed around the 100 or so amp setting, I have had no problem with duty cycle or semmingly amp drop through the longer leeds. These added length to the leeds are a definate plus when working on equipment on the farm. Any way, for the money I love this little Lincoln and don't let anyone fool you, the dc arc stability for this machine is fantastic compared to ac. I wired this rig to the 50 amp breaker with #6 wire. Good luck.


Bill

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signman

03-01-2001 05:07:52




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 Re: Stck welders in reply to Steve, 02-28-2001 19:02:24  
Unless you are going to buy a 250/250 AC/DC you better keep what you have. Those cheap aluminum wound AC/DC units won't hold a candle to an old copper AC. The stability you gain with DC is lost with the poor concuctivity of Aluminum. Also, think about the heat range you are welding in mostly. If you are in the 120-150 range like many of us you will have a very low duty cycle on the DC side. If you need to stay on the AC side to get the heat. You haven't made any upgrade.

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T_Bone

02-28-2001 21:01:48




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 Re: Stck welders in reply to Steve, 02-28-2001 19:02:24  
Hi Steve, Depends on how many pounds of rod you burn a year. I burn less than 50lbs/yr now and my 40yr old Lincoln AC buzzer can't be replaced or can I justify the expense for 50lbs/yr.

This class of machine there all pretty close to being the same, but I would buy the Lincoln or Miller in that order, just because of my past with them. Good products over the long haul. The sliding amp control sucks and anything with a large amp switch with fine amp control is cherry.

There might be a small amount of difference in arc stability but nothing to brag about.

T_Bone

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