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Pre-fabricated steel buildings???

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Sal

02-25-2001 18:52:30




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Hello, and thanks in advance for your thoughts.

I am looking at putting up a new shop/storage building and I am looking at the pre-fab steel buildings...specifically the one by Miracle-Span, the M-Series

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They are very cost effective per sq ft and they claim to be very easy to put up. I have talked with the company and they say that they have never had one colapse due to snow...I am up in the Syracuse NY area so this is important...All metal building so I don't think a lot of snow could stay on it.

I don't know of anyone who has one and I am looking to see what others know about them.

Seems like they could get hot but there are vents for them and for light there are fiberglass pannels.

Another thing I like is that they seem to be a pretty secure building...this is for some farm/recreational land I have but only get to a few times a week.

Any thoughts or experiences are appreciated.

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mark

01-31-2002 19:10:24




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 Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Sal, 02-25-2001 18:52:30  
I AM LOOKING FOR SKY LIGHT PANELS FOR A MIRACLE SPAN BUILD.THESE ARE NEEDED SO IF YOU CAN HELP ME PLEASE
E-MAIL ME WITH PRICES.THANK-YOU.



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Shep

02-28-2001 22:14:18




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 Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Sal, 02-25-2001 18:52:30  
Sal -
I live in N. FL so snow is not a concern here. Our concern is wind load and hurricane pressures. My building a sheer wind load of 100mph.

I looked into the arch buildings and did not like them for storage lost space up top and limitation on shelving due to the curvature. I have 30x60 with 12' clear sidewalls, 14' at the peak anchored to a full slab with 10" REDHEADS - approx $15k all said and done.

If I were to do it over I would have went 16' at the peak and hired an installation crew. I worked on mine by myself with my boys and it took us awhile, a long while. Construction dwgs. left alot to be desired.

I have two 12'w X 10'h rollup doors that I open for a breeze, and a personal entrance door. I didn't want to go any narrower with the doors as I plan to back trailers into the barn and did not want to try and "squeeze" a 7'-8' wide trailer in the barn (at nite sometimes).

I have posted a link to the building manufacture I bought mine from - Mastercraft now Olympia. It shipped out of PA. Feel free to call or write. Shep [email protected]
w 800.331.4289 x4766

P.S. to the rest of ya'll I will post layout in approx. 2 wks, traveling to Coloma, MI this Sunday. BRRRRR R....

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Bob M

02-26-2001 18:39:58




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 Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Sal, 02-25-2001 18:52:30  
Hey Sal - I'm right up the Thruway from you in Rochester. We put up a Stockade building in '98 to store equipment in. It's wood framed w/ metal skin and roof - a pole barn. Snow load was a concern, but it made it thru the March '99 blizzard (3-1/2 ft of wet snow), then the Labor Day '99 microburst (peak wind gust of 91 mph) - the building made it thru with flying colors. We're very satisfied with the building.

Only concern in your case would be security. A determined crook with a screw gun could let himself in an a manner of a couple of minutes.

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Rod MI

02-26-2001 11:02:09




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 Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Sal, 02-25-2001 18:52:30  
Steel roofs seam to be prawn to leaks all the ones I now off leak 7 total



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T_Bone

02-26-2001 16:44:49




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 Re: Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Rod MI, 02-26-2001 11:02:09  
Hi rod, I've installed a few of them over the years and never had a leak. Could be someone wasn't doing there job right! I have seen people who install them without using a vapor barer on the roof and condensastion to look like inside rain if they insulate and some that don't insulate. Wood does the same thing but slower because the wood soaks up the moister and has a better thermal properity.

Of all roofs, steel is the best and last the longest but more expensive to install.

T_Bone

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Bill Oakes

02-26-2001 08:03:27




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 Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Sal, 02-25-2001 18:52:30  
Hey Sal, I thought I might be the only guy from Syracuse on this board. Good to know there are others in my area that appreciate these old machines.



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VaTom

02-26-2001 05:07:21




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 Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Sal, 02-25-2001 18:52:30  
As was recently re-stated, "you get what you pay for". Price and portability are the only good things I've found about steel buildings. But if that's what the budget allows, it's a whole lot better than a tent. As far as security goes, it doesn't take much of a can opener to get in. Good luck.



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Wardner

02-25-2001 20:58:13




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 Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Sal, 02-25-2001 18:52:30  
I saw a deep ribbed quonset hut that was 2 years old collaspe in Vermont several years ago. He ran a tractor salvage business and that was the last straw. An uneven snow load did the bulding in. It happened so fast that it blew one of the end walls out. Not far from the building was a wood framed barn and a metal framed butler building. They both survived. There was something about the shape of the arch that collected an unusual amount of snow on one side. Perhaps the building would have survived if it had been plowed out close by the foundation.

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Tammy

04-02-2001 14:46:57




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 Re: Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Wardner, 02-25-2001 20:58:13  
My brother's deep ribbed quonset style structure collasped in March 2001. The building was aprox. 10 years old. He believes the problem to be with the uneven snow load as well. We would like to hear if this is a rare occurance or just not talked about alot. Structure mfg. by U.S. Arch



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T_Bone

02-25-2001 20:28:32




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 Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Sal, 02-25-2001 18:52:30  
Hi Sal, I haven't seen this pictular building, but most of them use a deep rib design and no inside structual framing. The rib design is the structural of the building. I don't know if this is one of them or not as I tried to read the install instructions and it wouldn't let me. They do get them past building codes. You need to get a copy of the plans and summit them to your local building department for preaproval. Some companys will not let you have them before you pay for the building then if the local building department doesn't approve the plans the company won't give you back your money. A friend ran into this in Washington State and had to call the Attorney General office to get the problem solved.

The difference in the cost of different buildings is usually how thick the sheets are. Some of them get very thin, 28ga and some smaller buildings 30ga. To me that would be the most important question on this type of building as the thicker the sheet is the least amount of damage will occur over time.

Ask them if they have one installed in your area then go take a look. Doesn't have to be exactly what your wanting but will give you a good idea of what to expect. They go up very fast and take a ton of screws. Use Milwukee screw guns.

Yep the instructions loaded. It is the rib design. It doesn't really say how the pannels go together, what kind of joint? It says something about a slip and if thats the pannel joint design, it will go together real slow. The lap joint pannels are much faster.

Do alot of checking before you buy!

T_Bone

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Neal

02-25-2001 20:15:33




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 Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Sal, 02-25-2001 18:52:30  
My shop is a steelmasters looks identical to the "S" model mirical span is selling. It was very easy to put up. I didn't get the ends I built them myself using fiberglass at the top so I hardly turn the lights on. The only mistakes I made was to place mastic in the joints while assembling it allowed for no movement to line up the bolt holes. The other thing was not buying the insulation package ( i didn't have the money at the time ) the company discontinued it a year latter. Neal

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Jayme Hearn

04-20-2001 05:24:24




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 Re: Re: Pre-fabricated steel buildings??? in reply to Neal, 02-25-2001 20:15:33  
A portion of my crab processing facility collapsed and I was wondering if you(or anyone) could inform me on where I could purchase pre-fabricated building materials.



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