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Recommendations on a TIG welder

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rad

03-06-2006 09:39:28

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I am a (serious) hobbiest, and have built quite a number of usable farm and shop tools with my Miller 210 and trusty old Lincon AC buzz box welder. The projects I am looking at now require me to weld some tubing and thinner materials. Been told that TIG is the best for this kind of welding. Would like to understand what is out there, what are the features I should look for and what questions I should be asking. Also what is the best process for welding sheet aluminum (1/16 - 1/4, but mostly 1/8 material)?

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T_Bone

03-07-2006 22:43:03

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to rad, 03-06-2006 09:39:28

Hi Rad,

Boy there's been a ton of advancement in welding machine technology the past 10yrs so much that if you haven't used some of the newer machines I strongly urge you to take a welding course at your local Vo-Tech school just to try out all the newer machines. This will save you a ton of money in knowing just what you want to buy for what you need.

I too would have to take my own advice as I've been retired to long and only use the "old" methods. Nothing wrong with that other than I can see a new learning curve that comes alomg with the new equipment.

I've talked at great lengths in previous threads about using scratch start Tig and O/A welding aluminum if you want to try those methods.

T_Bone

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scott#2

03-07-2006 18:32:59

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to rad, 03-06-2006 09:39:28

Ive been using an old miller shopmaster 300 ac cc/cv box and a high freq for years, does a fine job. If money is no object, I would be looking pretty hard at the miller dynasty, very flexible and almost unlimited possibilities, excellent for the thin stuff. I have used the sync 300 and aircrafter tig machines and they have always performed very nicely and can be had used at a decent price. The sync 300 has some a$$ and can handle the thick stuff with no problem but they are large machines, not like the newer inverter types. I would suggest going to a welding shop and try using some of their machines they have on demo in the back room. Find someone there that can tig and have them teach you the process and then check out the different machines. Or take someone with you that can tig and have them teach you real quick and have some fun.

A good tig arc sounds like something from war of the worlds.

scott#2

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Chuck UR

03-07-2006 05:32:59

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to rad, 03-06-2006 09:39:28

Here's 2 places to learn more about tig, and welding in general -
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Current thinking is that the Thermal Arc-185 is the best tig to buy for thin stuff, most bang for the buck. - 'rule of thumb'.001 per amp, .125 (1/8")= 125 amps.
Search Ebay for IOC, Indiana Oxygen.
I'm not affiliated but have bought a lot from them and have great service and best prices.

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ohio

03-07-2006 05:04:36

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to rad, 03-06-2006 09:39:28

i use a miller syncrowave 350 every day, works for about everything.if you're welding a large volume of stuff, mig is the way to go. if you want nice welds with tig, use 100% tungten electrodes, ac straight polarity with h.f. on, set start amperage lower than what you want to weld with. sharpen tungsten to a fine point, then strike an arc on a piece of copper, it will ball it off nice.

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Steve Crum

03-06-2006 21:28:03

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to rad, 03-06-2006 09:39:28

I moved up to a Miller SD180 Syncrowave last April from a Miller Econotig. I wouldn't trade the Syncrowave now for anything except maybe a bigger Syncrowave. The Econotig collects dust these days.

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hayray

03-07-2006 05:41:24

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to Steve Crum, 03-06-2006 21:28:03

I have one of those, they are great.

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Crem

03-06-2006 21:11:35

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to rad, 03-06-2006 09:39:28

I have a Lincoln Square Wave Tig 175 that I bought in 1997. It has been excellent, but I only use it for my hobbies. It has a foot pedal to control the heat. Including buying an Argon bottle it was close to $1500 back then. It does a good job on both steel and Aluminum. My son and I went to a vocational school to learn how to tig after I bought it. I had been around the tig welders and repaired them at work so I knew a little about how they worked.

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dr.sportster

03-06-2006 18:01:25

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to rad, 03-06-2006 09:39:28

Check out the Lincoln in the Eastwood[expensive restoration supplies]catalog but check pricing at your local supply house and the Miller and Lincoln websites.ps I dont have it I have an old Miller scratch TIG econo twin but I would like one of these for foot control.I think it was around 1700-1800 dollars.But as usual ads had lots of customer feedback that sounded good.

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Fawteen

03-06-2006 14:48:19

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to rad, 03-06-2006 09:39:28

In my new job, I've had the opportunity to learn a lot about welding. My previous experience was 100% mild steel, 99% of that with a MIG.

I've become at least marginally competent with TIG on stainless and aluminum, and MIG on aluminum.

TIG is hands down the most versatile process, and there is no comparison in the appearance of the weld between TIG and MIG on aluminum.

If you can afford it, go for the TIG, in my humble opinion, based on my admittedly limited experience.

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Greg_Ky

03-06-2006 11:57:51

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to rad, 03-06-2006 09:39:28

Check with your local welding supply and see if miller offers a spool gun and adapter for that model.

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mjbrown

03-06-2006 13:58:01

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Re: Recommendations on a TIG welder in reply to Greg_Ky, 03-06-2006 11:57:51

If you want nice welds on that aluminum use the tig process. If you want to weld fast and still strong but not as nice looking, Mig with a spool gun is good.
Some hobby oriented tigs are resonably priced. If you look around you may find a good old one for a good price. Some of the old (big) tig machines like a Miller gold star do a good job.

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