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Slowpoke

02-27-2006 12:43:23




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Some plug in devices have to be mounted so the cord exits the top of the device. Is it because the receptical is installed upside-down?
What is the correct way(if there is one)to install a standard 15 amp, 120v wall receptical...with the ground pin holes above the blades holes, or below the blades holes?




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RayP(MI)

02-28-2006 17:01:34




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Slowpoke, 02-27-2006 12:43:23  
Unfortunately, there are cord plugs that are made both ways, ground up and ground down. What are extremely nasty are those that are right angle plugs so that the cord SHOULD hang downward. Always find the socket is in upside down!



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Slowpoke

03-01-2006 09:27:30




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to RayP(MI), 02-28-2006 17:01:34  

Ray, that's exactly what I had in mind when I asked the question.



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Jon Hagen

03-01-2006 10:47:14




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Slowpoke, 03-01-2006 09:27:30  
Had your thread in mind as I backed out of the garage this morning.The socket and power cords of the two upright freezers are right in my line of sight. Both with factory installed lay flat plugs,the ground pin to cord location is opposite on those plugs. One plug fits with the cord hanging down,the other has to make that 180 loop to hang down. looks like you can't win this one unless you mount the socket on it's side so both cords make a 90 degree bend. :)

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Kendall

02-28-2006 14:54:44




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Slowpoke, 02-27-2006 12:43:23  
If you go to your electrical supply store and flip through the catalog of outlets, plugs, etc. you will find the diagrams all show the ground pin on the top. If you look closly at the writing molded into the outlet, you will find it reads correctly with the ground pin on the top. There is no law that says you have to mount it this way though. What ever tickles your fancy.



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Jiles

02-27-2006 20:20:08




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Slowpoke, 02-27-2006 12:43:23  
I believe some people put the pin up because it is easier to connect the ground wire!



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Kevin Bismark

02-27-2006 18:04:37




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Slowpoke, 02-27-2006 12:43:23  
Yup, those guy's are right, there is nothing in the national electrical code that states what position that has to be installed, I guess for over 20 years I have been putting the ground prong down, had a guy tell me that if I put it the other way if the plate came loose with something plugged in it would not cause a fault, of course I told him it sure would if it was a 2 wire plug. I think what you may have been saying is when you get the wall wart transformer to plug into an outlet it usually will only go in so it blocks the other outlet, and that is just a bad design, too many "smart" people on the payroll of the company that made the transformer..
Kevin

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cj3b_jeep

02-27-2006 13:22:09




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Slowpoke, 02-27-2006 12:43:23  
I actually had an inspector try to tell me that it had to be ground plug down when I was building my house two years ago. I had already installed all of them ground plug on top. I asked him to show me the reference and he could not, so he "let it slide." Wyokid is right, there is nothing in the national codes to say which way is right.



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Wyokid

02-27-2006 12:47:52




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Slowpoke, 02-27-2006 12:43:23  
No "correct" way to orient plug. Some electricians put the ground pin up on the theory that if a piece of metal were to fall between the plug and cover it will hit the ground pin and not trip the breaker or damage the piece of metal-probably a pretty long shot of that happening. NEC has no restriction on orientation so whatever blows your skirt up.



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HG

02-27-2006 14:17:00




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Wyokid, 02-27-2006 12:47:52  
No oreintation of plug in NEC. However, some believe that if installted with ground pin down, and it has a metal receptical cover and the cover comes loose and the plug is not fully inserted the metal plate, the plate could short between the Hot and Neutral lugs on the plug. Placing ground orientation upwards nullifies this as the plate would just touch the ground pin.
Pretty remote chance but I suppose it could happen.
FWIW, I install all mine ground pin down.

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Vern

02-27-2006 14:11:44




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Wyokid, 02-27-2006 12:47:52  
When I wired my shop I put in 4plex boxes & then installed each pair opposite so I have both positions available.
Vern



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Charles (in GA)

02-27-2006 19:14:27




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 Re: 15 amp receptical in reply to Vern, 02-27-2006 14:11:44  
When I wired my shop I put in 4plex boxes & then installed each pair opposite so I have both positions available.
Vern

I too thought about that..... after the fact, too lazy to take it all apart to turn them over. Good idea however.

Charles



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