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steve farmer

02-24-2001 06:30:13




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I am looking to buy a portable welder. I want about a 225 amp. The choices are narrowed down to a Hobart 10,000, Miller 225NT and a Lincoln Ranger 8. The Hobart is the cheapest and also the lightest by over 100 lbs. Is this lighter weight a sign of inferiority? I know a pipeline service truck guy with a Hobart and he says it is good. Also, what about the choice between a Kohler 20 hp engine or an Onan. Any advice would be much appreciated.

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clickent

02-27-2001 20:01:04




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 Re: engine driven welder in reply to steve farmer, 02-24-2001 06:30:13  
I recently bought the Hobart and have about 500 hours on it already. I have had zero problems with it and am glad I bought it. BTW, I understand the Hobart and the Miller are made almost side by side and are very very similar.



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Richard

02-25-2001 05:49:58




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 Re: engine driven welder in reply to steve farmer, 02-24-2001 06:30:13  
We have three, A Miller Bobcat, Ranger, and a Champ 10,000. The smoothest, best running machine is the Hobart Champ. It and the Miller are "almost" identical. The ranger does well also but the Hobart is quiter, and much smoother and is everyone's preference here at the shop.

Good luck with your decision...



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grm

02-24-2001 19:47:09




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 Re: engine driven welder in reply to steve farmer, 02-24-2001 06:30:13  
I bought a Lincoln Ranger 8 acouple months ago. I'm quite satisfied with it. Mine hase the Onan engine. I could have gotten one with the Kolher for the same price. I use it on my ranch welding pipe corrals, cattle guards, gates and etc. My neighbor has a two year old Miller Bobcat with Onan engine. I used it a lot until I bought my Ranger 8. I like the Bobcat and Ranger 8, both being similar in operation and performance. I choose the Ranger because it's what the local welding supply sold. Paid $2550 for it including 100 feet of lead, a stinger and a ground clamp.

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T_Bone

02-24-2001 09:55:43




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 Re: engine driven welder in reply to steve farmer, 02-24-2001 06:30:13  
Hi Steve, I started to give you a run down on what I thought was the best machines until reality hit and since it's been 7yrs since I've ran a new machine it wouldn't be a very good opinion! hehe

Remember you get what you pay for! What I do look for is arc stability anotherwords the smoothest arc and this is the most important. I diffentley would not buy if I could not try the machine out first! If you could rent a machine for a couple hours then you would see what your buying. As far as what goodies to get, CC/CV is a must to keep all your welding options open for future use. 200A minmium DC with AC. You will also need to run AC power at the same time you draw weld amps for extra controls for add on's. For getting the most years for the bucks a water cooled engine is a must but what does a new engine replacement cost compared to a water cooled machine? I see that most offer LP option in the small machines and that I would consider because of the additional engine run time before rebuild. Cost effective tho? I see that most offer and main amp control with a fine amp adjustment, great, and the low amp range is approx the same.

If your not an experienced welder you might consider getting a friend or hire a very experienced welder to make the arc stability call.
Whats another $100 for a good opinion when your spending $5k. A pipefitter is probably the best all around welder there is. Be sure and try the machine on all three processes, Stick, Mig and Tig for arc stability. Welding machines of the past would preform great on one or two but would be lousy on the third processes.

T_Bone

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