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Mark

02-26-2006 11:19:43




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I am getting ready to burn a very large pile of pallets and packing crates and when done, I will need to clean up the nails. Where might I find a decent sized magnet that could be fixed on the end of a broom handle and have plenty of attractive power? I'd even make one unless it required some grand Rube Goldberg scheme to make it work. This 'pile' of scrap is 60 feet long...it isn't like I have 7 small pallets to burn..there are a few hundred. Thanks for your ideas.

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Richard Scott

03-01-2006 18:11:36




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
My brother, a coumputer guy, gave me several magnets out of hard drives. You can't pull 2 of them apart--you have to slide them until they only overlap by an inch or so. The only magnets I have ever seen that were stronger were neodinium magnets, which are very spendy. If you know someone who works on computers, call him.



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Richard Scott

03-01-2006 18:11:07




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
My brother, a coumputer guy, gave me several magnets out hard drives. You can't pull 2 of them apart--you have to slide them until they only overlap by an inch or so. The only magnets I have ever seen that were stronger were neodinium magnets, which are very spendy. If you know someone who works on computers, call him.



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Dachshund

02-28-2006 18:20:01




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
MAN! I wish you were closer to SE Nebraska! I need about 100 used pallets!



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Bret4207

02-27-2006 16:07:32




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
Jeeze Jump. I'm hurt you didn't trust us back "home" to get you the right scoop! HAR!!!



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Mark

02-28-2006 18:40:35




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Bret4207, 02-27-2006 16:07:32  
Bret,

I wondered where you were hiding! I have confess, this gang here appears to be more sane than the fellers at Cast Boolits:)!

One thing about it, these folks have a broad spectrum of experience and always ready to share it.

I spend lots of time lurking here, just about abandoned CB's.



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IHFan

02-27-2006 14:33:40




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
HEY MARK! I just called two hrs. ago about an old pile of fence boards and buldozed house. 25000 dollar fine in good ole KY we are keeping up with the neighbors!



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Mark

02-28-2006 18:43:37




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to IHFan, 02-27-2006 14:33:40  
IHFan,

Well, they can get their fine book out and write all they want. I've got a pile of junk here and it's getting torched, that pack of morons in Frankfort can stand and toast their backsides by the fire if they want to.



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souNdguy

02-27-2006 12:34:21




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
TSC makes what looks like a push broom that has 'lawnmower' whels on each side.. and a magnet across the part where the bristles would be.. sounds like your deal..

Soundguy



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john d

02-27-2006 08:14:07




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
I'll echol someone else's comment about checking your area for a pallet manufacturer. They will often pay for used pallets and re-build them.

I have a small "magnet in a can" that I got at Menards for about $5 or so. It has a loop handle over the aluminum can and a "T" handle to pull that releases what has been picked up. I cleaned up quite an area with it, then modified it with a handle about 30" long that allows me to operated it standing up. I just sweep across the area, and drop the nails into a few buckets set about 10' apart.

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Slowpoke

02-27-2006 00:48:47




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
Used to be, 4-way pallets would fetch $3 each. Call some dealers and see if they will buy. Otherwise give them away to friends and neighbors for firewood. It will save the problem of burning them yourself.



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Hal/WA

02-26-2006 22:24:39




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
I have been very satisfied with my magnet with an extendable metal handle from Harbor Freight. I don't remember what it cost, but probably less than $10. If you put a metal paint can lid on the magnet before you start picking up steel, you can drop off what you pick up by simply "peeling" the can lid off the magnet rather than picking each nail off the magnet.

Old TV's and speakers had permanent magnets. When I helped clean up after a roofing job, I dragged a couple of those round magnet doughnuts around tied with twine to my boots. I found a whole lot of the nails as I worked picking up the removed roofing and at the end of the job I wasn't finding any more nails on the magnets. While I doubt that I got them all, I think I found most of the dropped nails with very little effort.

You might want to check with your local fire department, especially if it is a volunteer department. They might want to use your pile as a practice burn and it might not be a bad idea to have them on hand if the pile is as large as you suggest. Pallets and empty crates can really burn hot and fast and could surprise you. Good luck!

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Leland

02-26-2006 19:58:50




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
Lowes has a mag on wheels ready to go and it is not that over priced . or northern tool has one that you mount on the front of a forklift but either way you will be pulling off nails a lot .



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Charles (in GA)

02-26-2006 18:25:16




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
In Georgia, it is illegal to burn "man altered wood" in an open fire. This includes any wood that has been sawed into board, or made into products such as pallets, even if it is not OSB or plywood, and even if it is not treated lumber. Not to say it hasn't been done before and I'm sure it will continue to be done. $25,000 fine. I burn everything in a barrel.

Charles



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Mark

02-26-2006 18:38:00




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Charles (in GA), 02-26-2006 18:25:16  
How sad....not even allowed to burn scrap wood....what a free society you live in! Things not so bad here in Ky....yet.

Thanks to everybody who has responded, lots of great tips and ideas.



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Dave NE IA

02-26-2006 17:38:21




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
Alot of junk mixer mills have magnets, put it in a metal cookie sheet for easy removal. After roofing tear off we drag the big one then we have one that is town bought. It is made for holding tools on the shop wall with two holes in it. I think 18in wide. I used a old wire spring rake and took two of the tines and threaded thru the holes, heated them and bent them around so while raking it picks up the hard to get ones. Your pile is alrady established, but if you can avoid uneven ground or ruts, your clean up will be a hole bunch gooder. Dave NE IA

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John Niolon

02-26-2006 16:00:48




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
northern tool sells what your looking for in several sizes and prices.... probably cheaper than buying magnets and building one...

Link

also do a search on 'magnet'

john



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Ralph, Ohio

02-26-2006 14:04:53




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
The ones with wheels made for the this purpose work the best but another source of pretty good magnets is magnetic CB antennas. You can often find old ones for a few dollars at yard sales. I bolted the magnetic base to the end of 4' piece of 1/2" conduit with a bend at the end so it's shaped like a metal detector.



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other Will

02-26-2006 13:56:08




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
Know a guy that mounted one off a forage chopper on a push lawn mower chassis without the engine and blade.



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Hawaiirocky

02-26-2006 13:20:58




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
This won't work in your case, but I put an old speaker magnet on a line and tie it to my dog's collar so it just touches the ground. Amazing the number of nails he'll pick up in a day. I reward him with a treat for every nail he scores. The heavy Harbor Freight magnets do work, but I think you're talking much larger.



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say what?

02-27-2006 15:30:56




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Hawaiirocky , 02-26-2006 13:20:58  
Rock, you're kidding, right? If this is how you treat man's best friend...



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benny2

02-26-2006 12:38:59




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 Here is what to get for that Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
I use this

Get a OLD permenant mag chuck from a machine tool such as a surface grinder. Junkers can be had cheap.
The bigger the better. They have a handle on them to relese the mag force. You can install in a big piece of plastic pipe to keep clean then drag it with a tractor. You can locate these chucks on Ebay or from local machine dealers, usualy the junkers hace a bad surface or are not accurate for any more machine use. They are either rectangle or round.

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Stan in Oly, WA

02-26-2006 12:33:37




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 Re: Powerful Magnet in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
Hi Mark,

I've used a magnet to clean up lawns and driveways after roofing jobs, especially ones that involved a complete tear off of the old roofing. Here are a couple of tricks to add to your bag: Putting the magnet on a rope and dragging it will work in some circumstances where having it attached to a handle doesn't. My favorite is, if you find or make a steel container for the magnet, like putting it in a can, it will pick things up just about as well, but then you can lift the magnet out of the container and the metallic debris falls off. Makes you feel smart, too.

Harbor Freight sells 50# or 100# capacity magnets with an eye bolt attached, for about $10.
Probably made in China (bad) but no moving parts (good.)

All the best, Stan

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vrickster

02-26-2006 11:27:45




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 Try Lowes or Home Depot in reply to Mark , 02-26-2006 11:19:43  
I bought one that is about 1 ft wide with a handle on it, made just for the kind of thing you are doing. I live on a 100 yr old farm site with a 200 yd dirt drive. I drag it on my daily walk to the road and back. I am picking up flat tire makers all the time.



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