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Wheat47

02-25-2006 14:11:59




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About to start a new shop/garage. I'm planning on steel clad pole building type construction. It will be 32 x 72 with 12 ft sidewalls and a insulated/heated 24 X 24 Ell on one end for the work shop for my machine tools and wood tools. I plan on leaving 1/3 of the floor on the far end of the 32x72 with a gravel floor, for some steel wheeled or tracklayer tractors to sit on. Also one could park a wet/snowy truck there to melt/dry off.
There will be lots of plug-ins and lights, with the lights on several switches, so the whole shop doesn't have to be turn on. There will be a 32 X 20 concrete apron outside the main over headdoor.

I have many more ideas, and hope to make it as efficent and useful as possibe, with out breaking the bank too bad!!

What other suggestions do any of you have?
What all did you guys do wrong, and what would you do the next time?

I have many more ideas, and hope to make it as efficent and useful as possibe, with out brreaking the bank too bad!!

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Rickstir

02-28-2006 10:32:27




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
On the south wall, at the top, I ran 2' of fiber glass panels, then steel the rest of the way down. Sure lets in a lot of light. Plastic on the roof gets brittle after a couple of years. I noticed two panels in my chicken house roof are cracking at the edges and letting in rain/snow.

I wouldn't go four feet without an outlet and a port for the air line. If you know you are going to have a machine of some sort out away from the wall, run conduit and a floor outlet. You will be glad you did.

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RickL

02-26-2006 03:37:54




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
floor drain,air line in pipe run all down one wall,with couplers every 4to 8 ft. Talked about other end to drive in melt off it won't unless you heat the whole building. Radiant heat period in my experience. In floor or overhead. 200amp electric box. Overhead insulated doors if posssible but with the height of building you talking you won't have much left for headroom. It will cost at least double when you do actually get done. I need to go longer and wider but need mor extra cash first. In need to be about 120ft wide now due to machinery set getting large equipment in. MUST HAVE EXHAUST FANS.

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retired farmer

02-25-2006 22:42:36




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
Plan on spending about twice as much as you think it will cost to build it. It adds up fast. Don't forget ventelation fans. Make sure you have a big fuse panel for all the circuits. We are just finishing a thirty by thirty shop addition. Spent twice what we thought on it. Original fuse panel was too small and had to add another. Still not enough. Put in lots of skylights either on wall or roof, they really help. Good luck.

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2x4

02-25-2006 21:12:00




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
use Gene's 4" pipe for a vice stand somewhere out of the way but with plenty of room. You won't regret it.



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Gene Davis (Ga.)

02-25-2006 20:36:48




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
2 best things in my 30X75 Butler Building shop are 4" pipe set in the concrete then used as a support for one end of welding table/vise so the table doesn't move when wrestling with the work. next best thing is having the 2 roll up doors in line so I can have, "drag through access", for bringing in broken down junk that is not running.



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Gene Davis (Ga.)

02-25-2006 20:36:48




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
2 best things in my 30X75 Butler Building shop are 4" pipe set in the concrete then used as a support for one end of welding table/vise so the table doesn't move when wrestling with the work. next best thing is having the 2 roll up doors in line so I can have, "drag through access", for bringing in broken down junk that is not running.



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Gene Davis (Ga.)

02-25-2006 20:17:39




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
2 best things in my 30X75 Butler Building shop are 4" pipe set in the concrete then used as a support for one end of welding table/vise so the table doesn't move when wrestling with the work. next best thing is having the 2 roll up doors in line so I can have, "drag through access", for bringing in broken down junk that is not running.



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D2

02-25-2006 19:35:18




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
Put insulation under the concrete and run piping in it for in-floor heating. Even if you don't plan on heating it all now, if you do the work yourself you can do the insulation and piping for under $1/square foot. I wouldn't build one under 16' high but don't really know what you're using it for, I saw one with used patio doors set into the top of the wall so lots of light got in and used a cable/pulley setup to open and close the doors for ventilation. Scatter some tiedowns around the floor, I like a short length of 5" pipe with a heavy bolt or bar through it about halfway down, some reinforcing out into the cement and bury the pipe 1/2" down in the cement so you can make a cap for it. Put in twice as many mandoors as you think you need.
I also like hardwiring as many power tools as possible with their own switches high on the wall away from little hands if you have kids or grandkids around and get in the habit of using the wall switch.

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TRC

02-25-2006 16:27:14




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
I had a "skylight" ridgecap installed the length of my 40'X60'. Probably the best thing I did because there is plenty of light inside as long as there is daylight outside.



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Steve-Maine

02-25-2006 15:40:22




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
I built a similiar shop last year. I used basement size windows and put them as high as i could. You get plenty of light and no one can see in. I used 8' lights the low temp. type. Went out the other day at 6 degrees and they came on at once, well worth the extra cost.



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Midwest redneck

02-25-2006 14:54:49




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 Re: New Shop in reply to Wheat47, 02-25-2006 14:11:59  
Compressed air lines, windows, make the machine/wood shop heated with corn stove or wood stove. (propane or nat. gas is expensive) 100 amp service minimum. Concrete or packed limestone floor where the shop isnt. Put in two doors plus two man doors. Put in a trolley crane hoist (if you plan on working on cars/trucks/tractors). more guys will add their comments here. I built a big garage 5 years ago. I finished off a 28X10 workshop last year inside the garage, Walls are drywalled, ceiling is drop ceiling with tiles, insulated, I need to heat it.

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