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tube tires verses tubless?

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Pa Dave

02-22-2006 17:01:11

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we farm some hilly ground,some of the older farmers insist you have to run tubs in all implement tires. interested in thoughts,experiences, ect ?

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markct

02-26-2006 18:36:12

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Re: tube tires verses tubless? in reply to Pa Dave, 02-22-2006 17:01:11

i have been changing everything i own over to tubeless, even the rims that are kinda rusty on the bead seal fine with a bead of silicone. i have never had one break a bead unless it was underinflated, and believe me i have some serious hills that i do hay on, some where the baler or wagon have slid sideways. i like the ease of plugging them if they go flat, and there alot easier to mount, no worrying about pinched tubes.

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jeffcat

02-23-2006 17:49:35

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Re: tube tires verses tubless? in reply to Pa Dave, 02-22-2006 17:01:11

You got that straight! Had a tubless peal off a wagon on the hillside. Lot of fun when ya got to pick up all of that silage! Yupp, nothin like a role over. Six ply on wagons with tubes. Jeffcat

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paul

02-23-2006 17:01:35

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Re: tube tires verses tubless? in reply to Pa Dave, 02-22-2006 17:01:11

A slightly underinflated tubeless, a great deal of side-pressure turning on a hill, add some vibration such as from a rocking baler, and a tubeless will peel off the rim at times.

Generally tho either work fine. I tend to run good used truck tires on my implements with old rims - I don't go on the road much with implements - and so want tubes in them.

--->Paul

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ChasK

02-23-2006 07:20:16

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Re: tube tires verses tubless? in reply to Pa Dave, 02-22-2006 17:01:11

I think the key phrase here is "hilly ground". We had an old New Holland square baler that when on a side hill, would break the bead and go flat. It only took a few times of that to get a tube in it. Everything else we ran had tubes, and no problems.

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RickL

02-23-2006 02:39:20

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Re: tube tires verses tubless? in reply to Pa Dave, 02-22-2006 17:01:11

don't see the dig deal, both have advantge in some cases,tubless you can have nails wire etc and still usually get to where get it fixed,tube type when you get nail you dead in tracks. Still same theory with both if it has a hole it will leak down,just the tube type very quick the tubless very slowy in most cases. We run rural mail route so don't tell me the difference in these on route vehicle,don't need to as usually set of tires only lasts 3-4 months anyway whether it is 90.00 tire or 60.00 tire.

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Dave NE IA

02-22-2006 21:06:50

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Re: tube tires verses tubless? in reply to Pa Dave, 02-22-2006 17:01:11

I think probably Old farmers are probably on the correct track. I get so ticked off with the tubless tires other than hwy use tires.I began reading another post and got interupted that started with something about small China tires. I'm going to try to find it and check it out. I bet I don't have to guess --whats that all about?--- It is to bad the folks in the USA don't hold the manufactures of equipment with small tires more accountable than to have equipment that sits on the sales floor with flat tires on almost every tire in the store. (most are the overseas tires you can spot a mile away) I wish we would all stick to our guns and make them fix the flat tires that keep going down after setting a couple of weeks. Dave NE IA

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kidbob

02-22-2006 18:29:44

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Re: tube tires verses tubless? in reply to Pa Dave, 02-22-2006 17:01:11

My experence is that tube type goes flat as soon as it is punctured, and a tubless usualy will not go down while in use, but may be flat when you come back to to get tht tool again.

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souNdguy

02-22-2006 17:59:12

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Re: tube tires verses tubless? in reply to Pa Dave, 02-22-2006 17:01:11

Both have thier pros and cons.

Tubeless are easier to patch.. tire slipping on rim doesn't rip valve off. If you run loaded tires.. tubless lets ballast come into contact with rim.. this leaks to rusted beads and leaky tires that never seal good.

tubes have to be dismounted to patch, tires slipping on rim usually destroy tube. You can run a tubless tire till it falls right off the rim as long as it protects the tube and the tube holds air.. A bent/rusted bead doesn't cause leaking. Badly rusted rims can be sandblasted and painted smooth.. or use a boot to add a tube. A rim in this condition would never work good on a tubeless tire.. but fine for tube.. etc.

Soundguy

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