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Best way to thaw frozen water pipes

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Itchy

02-19-2006 09:18:31




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Its cold here in Iowa and have some water pipes frozen..heard of alot of different ways..just what to know how everyone else does it..in stock tanks..under ground..pressure tank pit..thanks




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Chris Kwietniowski

02-21-2006 20:21:16




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
Stan in Oly, WA makes a very interesting point. The Lincoln 'tombstone' AC arc welder does state that it has a 20% duty cycle, and yet can be used at 100% duty on the 70 setting. I own a Lincoln 'tombstone' and I have used it at 90% duty or higher on setting 120 and 135- before I knew what a duty cycle was. My welder took no damage except for a bit of melted plastic on the rod holder.



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john d - EXTREME PROCEDUR

02-21-2006 10:18:14




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
Many years ago, when I was at college and the pipe to the water tank for the cattle froze, my Dad drove my '56 Oldsmobile to the fence and thawed the pipe with my jumper cables and a direct short from the car battery! It worked. The grips were melted off my jumper cables, and the brushes in the generator were almost completely consumed. When I questioned this procedure, he said "Well, I wasn't going to use your Mom's car!"

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larry in tn

02-21-2006 06:44:01




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
Welders will work but there are lots of safety considerations. Most of my experience using welders were in controlled industrial applications.

When I lived in Michigan I used elecrical heat tapes. They are slow but they work. They wont hurt plastic pipe. Get a good tape and wrap it on the pipe. You can pretty much leave it there. I used an optional Reddy heater plug in thermostat that I had to turn the tape on and off. Worked pretty good.

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sheldon

02-19-2006 16:07:44




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
The city came with the welder to thaw a waterpipe to a house , after 5 hours they gave up it did not thaw the pipe, No one realized the unoccupied house across the street caught fire and burned the interior of the house because of the use of the welder.



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Jimmy King

02-19-2006 15:51:22




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
We used to use the wielder on galvanize pipes, Dad had an old Miller with copper windings and I saw it run all day wide open once at my Granddads from the house to the lot. If you use a wielder be sure and read what the 100% duty cycle is.



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bellyacre

02-19-2006 14:05:06




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
Let the girls do it, April May & June



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Dave NE IA

02-19-2006 12:51:47




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
A old boss of mine used to thaw out pipes as a winter job with a welder. While in town they noticed the neighbors meter socket smoking. He decided it was a good time to check his insurance that covered everything plus a umbrella policy that covered anything the first one did not cover. This guy does about anything and everything, comercial, residentual & almost everything that is farm related, concrete forms, has his own rock quary, delivers rock / lime. Has dozers, sells buildings,silos, silo unloaders, tmr's, Patz barn cleaners.Has boom trucks,trenchers,backhoes,trackhoes, Has electricians, plumbers,Large dairy heard, large stock cow heard, feeds out fat steers. Sells buildings Ag, residentual, comercial. Some small realestate, macinrey repair shop. I could go on for another country mile and with all the insurance he is covered for, you guessed it, not for welders and water pipes.

We get involed different times with the extra cold pipes, we have numerous knipco heaters with chimney pipe adjustable elbows, 250,000 btu lp gas portable unit,as well as several smaller ones and several lp torches made for flame throwing, but a bucket of hot water will beat them hands down in 99% of the cases. We do offer a hot water pressure washer option, but is a real winter pain in the butt for mobility. A word for those burying pipes to consider is when you have the trench dug, why is that most folks only lay down one pipe. The cost of throwing another alongside in the trench is but a drop in the bucket when you have a leak or frozen pipes. Many times if we get into rock we sandwitch the pipes in three or four layers of styrafoam, or at least run it through a 4" non perferated field tile. I would wonder if in a pit you could use the electric heaters to avoid the problem. Most people do not realize that a light bulb is just as efficent as a heater, watt for watt. And leaving lights on in your house if you have total electric heat is not a big deal in extreem cold. Yea I'm long winded, but once I get done with this I got to do the housework thing. Dave NE IA

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JMS/MN

02-19-2006 12:14:36




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
Plumber's torch is a good heat source for thawing. Costs about $40, hooks to a 20 lb lp tank.



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Joe in MN

02-19-2006 12:28:44




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to JMS/MN, 02-19-2006 12:14:36  
REAL GOOD WAY TO START A FIRE YOU DON'T NEED, OH THAT WILL THAW THINGS OUT FOR YA...



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Paul Janke

02-19-2006 11:34:21




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
Warm weather right away. Hard to order it, though.



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dan67

02-19-2006 10:46:33




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
I thawed a frozen line yesterday. I use my old stick welder, set it on the lowest setting, 40/50 amps. hook one side at known thawed side and other on other side of freeze. Has to be all metal lines( no plastic). I have real long leads, not all my welding can be done in shop. gOOD LUCK



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Stan in Oly, WA

02-19-2006 11:49:56




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to dan67, 02-19-2006 10:46:33  
Hi Dan,

Here's a piece of welder trivia: The setting for 70 amps on Lincoln's red "tombstone" welder has a circle around it. This is as far as Lincoln will go to indicate that this is the setting to use to thaw pipes. The other thing about this setting is that it is the only one that Lincoln admits has more than a 20% duty cycle, 100% in this case. From what I know of the physics of transformers, it's either impossible or virtually impossible for the tap at 70 amps to have a 100% duty cycle while the taps immediately below it and above it drop back to 20%. I guess Lincoln can say what they like as long as they understate capacity rather than overstate it.

Stan

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paul

02-19-2006 10:16:44




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Itchy, 02-19-2006 09:18:31  
A bucket of hot water from your water heater does wonders for a pit or a stock tank. For many years I basically thawed the stock tank every day over winter to get water to the livestock.

For the pit, don't wait - pull a plank off, pour a bucket of hot water on the pipes going through the bottom, replace the plank. You don't want to give them time to freeze in any deeper into the sides, get water moving through them, the moving water will be a radiator & keep things warmed up again.

Pipe I've heard many different things, I assume underground - a welder is mentioned a lot, not sure what distance one can do, or where you find a welder with long enough leads, or if it works on plastic line... Fortunately everything on this farm is 6 feet deep or so that is burried, other than one line to the barn that juust stays frozen until spring if it freezes.

--->Paul

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Itchy

02-19-2006 15:08:49




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to paul, 02-19-2006 10:16:44  
I believe you are right...I had a stock tank froze and put a tarp over the tank and turned on a torpedo heater..it ran for 2 hours and still nothing..it might have had it just about thawed but when I poured hot water on it it thawed out in 1 minute..seems as though hot water does it quicker and since then have used a lot of hot water unless the pump is froze up then I can not get hot water unless I thaw snow and heat the water on the stove...what a mess..wish I could move the livestock south in the winter and herd'em back in the spring..Hogs used to be the craps...they would squeal and drive you to the point of insanity before you got it thawed out and then fight over the fountain until all had a drink..this of course was the first thing in the morn'n..glad I'm out of the hog business..45 years of tiring to beat the cold weather..hello retirement.thanks

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Stickler

02-19-2006 10:50:03




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to paul, 02-19-2006 10:16:44  
A welder won't work on plastic line unless there's a conductor alongside it. Some installations up here are done that way for that very reason. Mine are buried 8 feet down, and are plastic. I had a yard hydrant freeze a while back when a wire burnt off in the stock waterer it was feeding burned off, and the hydrant froze. I built a tarp hoarding over it and ran a 4.8kW constuction heater inside for 2 days before it thawed. Hydrant's attached to plastic pipe below frost line, but nowhere to hook a ground on.

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paul

02-19-2006 21:37:48




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 Re: Best way to thaw frozen water pipes in reply to Stickler, 02-19-2006 10:50:03  
Put in an energy frre waterer for the cattle 2 years ago, best thing I did in a long time. No worries about electric going out, etc. Feeds from a cistern, so have 2-4 days of water no matter electric or cold or bad pump or what. Proved that when my well went bad this summer, well guys came & had to disconnect power because crane was too close to overhead wires. They were worried about the cattle, well work would take 24-48 hours. No problem, cistern. Ok, worried about cattle, no electric for 8 hours. No worries, gravity feed from the cistern. :) Well ok, we'll start working....

All hydrants are in pits here - they tend to freeze a bit more that way, but how do you deal with the burried ones when things go wrong? And for me things always go wrong....

--->Paul

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