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Rod

02-22-2001 09:15:07

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Are the auto darking helmets that have a variable shade worth the extra bucks over the ones that just darken to say a 10 or 11? Also what are the best brands for the money, Jackson,Sellstrom,Huntsman Etc? Are they easily broken or damaged? Thanks for any help.

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dave

03-13-2002 17:49:18

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Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to Rod, 02-22-2001 09:15:07

miller has a new helmet for 229.00 its better than speed glas muti shade 9-10-11-12-13

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Jerry Pilkenton

01-29-2002 17:14:26

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Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to Rod, 02-22-2001 09:15:07

First of all I would like tell everyone that auto
lense filter at all times.If your lens goes light
while you are welding it will still protect your
eyes. They usually give protection equal to a min.
shade 12 and some shade 14 regardless of the shade of the lens so the speed of the lens has nothing to do with filter protection.The single sensor lens are the cheapest because they only see the welding arc from one point of view.When they lighten while welding it's because they lose sight of the arc so the more sensors the better. Currently to my knowledge the best lense avail.
for the dollar is the Huntsman #30104 solar powered lens.(made by EQC div.Jackson Prod's-USA)
It is made to fit some Huntsman and Jackson Hoods. It has (2) sensors/solar powered/shade adjustable/and it has sensitivity adjustment.
The mfg.retail price is only $161.00 and the Jackson welding Helmets start at about $31.00 This is not the best lens over all but it is the best value with so many features in the low price range.

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Dave

02-24-2001 04:52:59

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Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to Rod, 02-22-2001 09:15:07

We have two name brand units. Lower cost one is non-adjustable with only one apparent sensor to pick up light and it flashes you pretty regularly. Sent it back for factory repair, it came back the same. Dealer still brags about what a great buy it is??? Think I'll sell it back to him.
The other one is a higher dollar adjustable. It works very good, never flashes, but is heavy. That's the one that gets used. Despite all the adjustments it still darkens if you do any grinding.
I don't recall the brands off hand, but could get them if you like. Ours have been dropped quit a lot and keep on going, so far.

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Wade

02-22-2001 22:44:53

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Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to Rod, 02-22-2001 09:15:07

While not the guru of arcs, I have a comment or two. After using a large lens conventional helmet, I wouldn't consider anything else. If you weld in various positions it makes it much easier to get everthing lined up.

The last time I welded I had to use someone else's helmet. It had the magnifier lens in it. About drove me crazy. I had to stick my face right into the work. Talk about a sore neck.

I think autoshade is slick, but I can't (won't) justify the expense. And I know that there is a micro-nano-milli-second of exposure, probably 1000x less than an accidental flash, but I don't flash myself often.

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Brian

02-23-2001 21:35:10

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Re: Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to Wade, 02-22-2001 22:44:53

If you like fuel injection, radial tires etc. ya gotta love the auto lense love mine, flash? don't think so, its lighter than my old cardboard Huntsman to.

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T_Bone

02-22-2001 18:41:53

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Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to Rod, 02-22-2001 09:15:07

Hi Rod, I haven't tried any of the new ones and the last one was 10yrs ago. I was not a happy camper with the one I tried. Too heavy and would not darken fast enough. After 4hrs my neck was sore.

I still have found nothing that will beat a Huntsman 411P but I'm not looking either!

On a side note that Steve triggered, I did go to a all bi-focal eye glass lens and what a big difference that made as there no more dead spots. There also called reading glasses.

T_Bone

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clickent

02-27-2001 20:24:55

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Re: Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to T_Bone, 02-22-2001 18:41:53

You gotta try the new ones! I have an Optrel that has never failed me. There are no batteries so it is light. Matter of fact it is lighter than my conventional helmet. There are times when I have it flipped up and am talking to somebody and I actually forget I have it on. I consider it money very well spent and is the best safety item I own.

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Steve U.S. Alloys

02-22-2001 14:30:34

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Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to Rod, 02-22-2001 09:15:07

All the name brands should have an OSHA sticker in them and the switching speed printed somewhere. They will also give you maximum and minimum operating temps. Compare the helmets for fit and coverage of your chin and neck. The Jacksons we sell have something new called HTLS. This is high transmission light state. Really nice for grinding and repositioning parts etc. w/o lifting the shield. The low end Jackson operates for 700 hours on 2 AA batteries. The variable shade is good for people who go from GTAW or GMAW process to stick. Also good for times when you may want to weld stainless or aluminum. You should use #12 shade for GTAW or GMAW and Al or SS welding with the SMAW process for extended periods. The more costly helmets with the bigger windows are a must if you wear bifocals. Also, If you want to put in a cheater plate all helmets won't accept those.

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02-22-2001 12:08:27

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Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to Rod, 02-22-2001 09:15:07

I have a hood that is made by Optrel - it was issued to me by my employer. I think they are great. They have a couple of easy adjustments for how close it sits to your face, how close it is to your face, and the angle that it sits when in the sown position - angled up for overhead or down for working on a table or such. Saves a lotta neck strain. Also, it is solar powered - it has a little cell like you see on a calculator - so you never have to worry about batteries. I also have a Speedglass at home, it is very nice too. Have never been flashed by either of them, except the Speedglass, when I forgot to turn it on. That's another thing, the Optrel never needs to be turned on - it comes on automatically at the first flash. MO

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JD790

02-22-2001 09:50:55

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Re: Auto welding Helmet in reply to Rod, 02-22-2001 09:15:07

I have heard pro's and con's
Some say a Hood @$200?? they still get flashed no matter how fast they are.

That was them using wire feed not stick.
At the price they want I would test drive one first.

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