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3 in 1 Drill/Mill/lathe

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BobInMN

02-08-2006 18:30:49




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I have been thinking of buying one of the cheaper 3 in 1 Drill/Mill/Lathes from Northern Tool. I have never used any machine of this type before. What I want to know is will I be able to cut 1/4" keyways on the ends, or midway, on 1" X 36" cold rolled steel with a machine this size?

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MikeCatthemuseum

02-11-2006 17:17:01




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 Re: 3 in 1 Drill/Mill/lathe in reply to BobInMN, 02-08-2006 18:30:49  
Just in case the others didn't turn you off on this deal...

I had a comparatively high-dollar Smithy 1220 for a short while several years back. About the only thing it was good at was turning, and that was a royal pain as the carriage had no traversing wheel. It had a crank on the end of the leadscrew which required about 10,000 revolutions to move 3". That said, it was a pretty decent lathe, but short on centers and not extremely stout due to the tall compound setup.

The mill feature is a JOKE. There is no way to keep the head in place if you have to raise it. It swivels around the column and you have to figure a way to get it back to zero or screw up your slot. That's nothing compared to the new vocabulary you will learn the first time the cutter grabs and snatches that head around on the round column, breaking the endmill, ruining the work, and blowing your setup all at the same time.

The drill press is OK if you are regularly working pieces under 1" tall, because that is about all the room you have once you get a drill chuck and vise on the machine. Ditto the setup problems if you have to use a short center drill and change out to a longer drill for the hole.

For not much more money, you can probably locate a well used Bridegport or other real mill. Even a worn out mill of this type will be FAR superior to that 3in1.

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1945 A

02-09-2006 13:01:39




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 Re: 3 in 1 Drill/Mill/lathe in reply to BobInMN, 02-08-2006 18:30:49  
I bought something similar to this off of one of those "truck load" tool sales a year or so ago. It was made in China (which I already knew), but, when trying to do anything other than using it as a drill press, it makes me wish I had a real milling machine. They just aren"t as good as the description implies, IMHO.....



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TimV

02-09-2006 06:59:18




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 Re: 3 in 1 Drill/Mill/lathe in reply to BobInMN, 02-08-2006 18:30:49  
Before I spent my money on this machine, I'd consider the mini-mill that Northern (and Grizzly and Harbor Freight and Homier and Cummins, etc. etc.) sells. This will give you two out of the three capabilities of the 3 in 1 (mill and drill) for less money and with more table travel. I have one, (and also a 7 x 14 mini-lathe) and have cut keyways such as you describe with it before successfully. If you need to go the full length of the piece, you're better off buying pre-cut shaft stock, but for adding or cleaning up a small section of keyway it works fine.

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Butch(OH)

02-08-2006 19:48:16




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 Re: 3 in 1 Drill/Mill/lathe in reply to BobInMN, 02-08-2006 18:30:49  
As long as the keyways are shorter than the travel of the cross slide it can be done as long as your tollerances are measured with a Stanley tape measure. To answer a question you should have also asked, no you realy dont want one of those 3-1 machines, 0-1 is closer to discribing their practical usfullness than 3-1.



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Ol Chief

02-08-2006 19:10:31




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 Re: 3 in 1 Drill/Mill/lathe in reply to BobInMN, 02-08-2006 18:30:49  
According to info. posted this machine is light duty.Only 14 inches between centers and cannot cut threads.I can only comment that it certainly lacks a lot of features that you will need.I have only operated a couple of multi purpose machine tools,all of which were unsatisfactory.spent more time switching stuff around than than producing a finished piece of work. I recomend shopping the used machine tool market.

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