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PNEUMATIC NAILER THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO DRIVE 20d RINGSHANK NAILS FOR POLE BARN

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Ken McWilliams

02-21-2001 03:53:27




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I'm making plans to build a pole barn when the weather breaks in a few weeks to store my treasures. I've built a couple of post-frame buildings, and I've always used 20D ring-shank nails for the girts and purlins. Due to the continual flexing of this type of structure, I've never been comfortable using a shorter nail or using a smooth shank nail.

Well, age has caught up with me, and when I do a lot of nailing on a project such as this, my hands and joints will be swollen for weeks. Therefore, I've been looking at some pneumatic nailers. To my surprise, however, I'm finding them to be quite wimpy when it comes to driving nails for a pole barn. The largest ones will drive a 3-1/2" nail (16d smooth shank), but I can't seem to find any either at building supply stores on on-line merchants will drive a 3-1/2" rinkshank or larger. Most top out at about 2-1/2" for ring shanks. I can see building a deck using these short nails, but not a pole barn with these small nails and the continual flexing.

I've done web searches and looked at Senco, Paslode, Stanley/Bostich, Porter Cable, and some of the other brands.

Yesterday, after work, I stopped by Lowes. They had the usual framing nailers that tops out at 3-1/2 inch. While I was there, however, I saw a Stanley-Bostitch catalog and began perusing it. In it was a model # N100C that will drive up to 4" nails. I immediately found two associates in the tool department that proceeded to go brain-dead. They didn't know anything about it, nor did they know how to order one out of the Stanley catalog.

Does anyone know where I can get the industrial/commercial rated nailers that are not commonly known about? Who has had experience with nailers and have they been successfully used on pole barns. I don't want to use screws, because they're too slow.

I'd sure like to save some wear and tear on my body by avoiding using my 28 ounce framing hammer.

Any advice-other than hiring it done?

Ken McWilliams
Dayton, OH

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robert hutchins

01-09-2004 05:03:04




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 Re: PNEUMATIC NAILER THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO DRIVE in reply to Ken McWilliams, 02-21-2001 03:53:27  
have you tried get on there site and order one from there



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RobertTX

02-24-2001 10:33:36




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 Re: PNEUMATIC NAILER THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO DRIVE 20d RINGSHANK NAILS FOR POLE BARN in reply to Ken McWilliams, 02-21-2001 03:53:27  
Ken,

I asked my local Stanley Bostitch guy this same question for the very same reason. He told me that big nailer is very heavy and the recoil is tremendous. The other guys are right, you make up for the extra length by using a coated fastener and shooting more of them. Second bad thing is that unless you find someone that will special order for you, those big nails are not available for the guns. You might have to order a case which will be some serious $$. Just my experience, hope it helps.
Robert

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teadave

02-21-2001 17:13:31




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 Re: PNEUMATIC NAILER THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO DRIVE 20d RINGSHANK NAILS FOR POLE BARN in reply to Ken McWilliams, 02-21-2001 03:53:27  
ken: i have used just about every brand/type/size of air nailer/stapler. have you ever tried to pull an air driven fastener out? the brands i favour are held together by glue, not plastic. when these are driven in the glue melts creating a STRONG bond. if you try to pull them out, they give you a real tough time until the glue joint breaks. 3 1/2" spiral framing nails are plenty long enough, plus with the nailer its easy to place a few extra fasteners in the joint real quick & easy.

teadave

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Dave M

02-21-2001 07:56:24




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 Re: PNEUMATIC NAILER THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO DRIVE 20d RINGSHANK NAILS FOR POLE BARN in reply to Ken McWilliams, 02-21-2001 03:53:27  
I don't think I've seen any collated ring shank framing nails bigger than 3". The only nailer I know of that can drive 4" nails is the Senco SN70 (maybe factory modified).

The crew that built my pole barn used the Paslode Impulse cordless framing nailers. They didn't seem too concerned about the length of the nails they were using, but did make sure they shot plenty of nails into the posts to hold the top plates, etc.

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Bus Driver

02-21-2001 11:45:28




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 Re: Re: PNEUMATIC NAILER THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO DRIVE 20d RINGSHANK NAILS FOR POLE BARN in reply to Dave M, 02-21-2001 07:56:24  
Perhaps one of the pneumatic palm nailers would help. These nailers replace the hammer for driving the nails. Some of them claim to be able to drive 60D nails.



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ltf in nc

02-22-2001 16:52:23




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 Re: Re: Re: PNEUMATIC NAILER THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO DRIVE 20d RINGSHANK NAILS FOR POLE BARN in reply to Bus Driver, 02-21-2001 11:45:28  
The "bus driver" suggestion is the way to drive the BIG pole barn nails. This works



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