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1 Tonners SRW or DRW?

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Rich Iowa

01-26-2006 15:51:46

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I"m just curious, how many of you prefer single rear wheels or duals on your 1 ton pickups? Does anyone notice a mileage differance between the two? Anything else ya"ll have noticed?

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Kevin (FL)

01-28-2006 06:55:06

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

Rich,

We have a 2001 F350 SRW 4x4 bought new. Only reason I got the SRW was because I wanted limited slip differencial and 3.73 gears. To order limited slip on a dually Ford required 4.11 gears. Since we make a couple road trips per year I wanted the truck to get a little better mileage with the 3.73 gears. When I'm towing, I would have preferred the 4.11 gears but again the bulk of our mileage is bobtail--not towing. As for the stability question (with SRW's), our trailer is 36' TD gooseneck and it tows like a dream. Been across the PA mountains 4 or 5 times and also made a trip out to Idaho and back to FL via South Dakota. Also have made several trips out to TX and a few more up and down the eastern seaboard. That being said, I've also owned DRW trucks too and I'm sure the duals give you a little better stability. As some of the other folks said--pick the setup for you truck based on what it's mission will be most of the time. If I were doing commercial towing I would go with the DRW's. But for us hauling tractors, small dozers, backhoes, etc, the SRW does fine. The good thing about the TD gooseneck is that you can really control (limit) the load on the truck and set things up for a nice tow.

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barryinmn

01-27-2006 19:47:59

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

I have a '93 reg cab cab & chassis dually with a 8x10 (4 yd) contractors box. It has pulled a 12K bumper pull trailer thru 12" snow without hesitation. Also pulled on Interstates that were glare ice. Snow tires on the rear & steer tread tires on the front. In mud stuck down to the axle just shove some expanded metal grid under 1 tire & it crawls out!

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RustyFarmall

01-27-2006 06:41:17

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

OK, I'll throw in my nickel's worth. If you don't want the DRW, might as well stay with a 3/4 ton, and while the extended cab would be nice on occasion, it is not necessary. I own a 2001 Chevy dually with the standard cab, it is very stable on the road while pulling a trailer and really shines when transporting awkward farm machinery that likes to wag the tail. The truck also fits into most parking spaces without too much trouble. The only spaces I pass up are those that a 1/2 ton wouldn't fit into either.

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caseyc

01-27-2006 11:05:37

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-27-2006 06:41:17

i beg to differ your first sentence....i have both a 3/4 and a 1 ton, SRW, reg cab, 4x4. the 1 ton handles the same loads alot better. they are both chevys.

casey

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wrench to

01-27-2006 06:19:35

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

The only thing that kept me from buying a DRW pickup this time is. You cant go through a drive thru car wash with them.If you want to wash your own truck all the time no problem. But I dont.

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Butch(OH)

01-27-2006 05:31:16

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

I have had a dually since the spring of 2001 and have out 150K on it. There is only one plus that I have found for duals. As someone else said below for towing a trailer they are very stable. Minuses are many. You doun"t need the duals for hauling loads in the bed as any sane load is easily handled by single tires in the higher ratings. My truck has aluminum wheels, polished only on one side and inside rears are steel (factory) so tire rotation is impossible unless you demount tires. Unless you run agressive tread tires they will spin out much easier on surfaces like wet grass. The are very wide, it takes more attention while driving to keep one between the white lines, not realy a big problem except on some narrow roads in town. Whoever said the box is narrower below is mistaken the dualls are added to the outside of a STD width axle. A 4 door dually is a 14K pain in the neck to park almost anywhere in town. I guess my advise is if you tow continuously or are into cool get a dually, all the kids are buying them. If your into practical or tow occasionaly get single rear wheels. My next PU will not be a dually.

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Dan in ore

01-27-2006 04:15:29

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

Just bought a new Ram 3500 DRW with the Cummins. Love the thing. Plan to do a lot of pullin with it. On the Dodge the SRW axle is rated at 6900 lbs, the DRW 9000 lbs. It still doesn"t ride like a truck. The SRW will turn shorter and get into tighter parking spots, but I prefer to park away from the bunch anyway especially with a new rig. Just my opinion.

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T_Bone

01-26-2006 22:10:16

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

Hi Rich,

If you pull trailers there's only one choice, DRW. There's just no comparrision of the stability that DRW adds.

I've had my daullie in mud, snow, ice and sand and I can't see any difference in traction VS a SRW. I've also had my DRW in the deep back country elk hunting and had no problems. I'm comparring 4wd trucks not 2wd.

I figure my DRW cost me $125yr extra in tires and fuel VS SRW. The best $125yr I ever spent.

Then if you couple that DRW to a dual tandum axle trailer, you wouldn't believe the stability that both rigs give you.

You'll find very few people who own a DRW 4wd that will return to a SRW 4wd, or 4wd returning to 2wd. Both items are just too easy to have. Just like going back to a reg cab after owning a crewcab.

The only regret I have is not switching to a DRW, CC, dual tandum axle, much sooner in life.

T_Bone

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ShepFL

01-26-2006 21:33:42

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

I used to have an 78 GMC Crewcab dually that was nice to me. I am now running 1990 Chev 1 ton 4x4 and love it. Easier to park, manuver into tight spaces etc.

Note though - sometime between 1978 and 1990 GMC went 1" narrower on the bed betweeen the wheel wells. When I got my current truck had to sell camper as it would not fit the wheel wells. Live and Learn.

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bcPA

01-26-2006 20:20:23

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

I was told a drw sheetmetal box has less than 4 ft between the wheel wells. I really like a dual wheeled truck but I also like it quick and easy when it comes to hauling 4x8 sheets of ply wood. Just something to consider.I have a long wheelbase s10 and a dual wheel dump truck with a 8 ft box with 7;50x 20 inch tires. They do all I need to do. The dump box is just under 8 ft though and is a sore spot with me. I have to get creative with the tail gate to haul plywood.

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Tim B from MA

01-26-2006 19:08:18

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

I thing it pretty much comes down to: If you are going to be doing alot of towing of heavy trailers, get the drw. If not, get the srw. If you are going to be frequently putting alot of weight in the truck bed itself, don't get a pick-up. Get a small dump truck, or stake body or such (e.g., F-350, F-450 etc.)- those will all be drw. The same model drw trucks are generally rated for about a half ton more in gvw than the srw - same truck, just heavier suspension.

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Rich Iowa

01-26-2006 18:48:08

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How about cabs? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

Now, how bout regular cab vs ext. cab. I"ve allways been partial to reg. cabs, but I have no kids and not enough friends.

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jhill

01-27-2006 05:41:31

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Re: How about cabs? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 18:48:08

I have an extended cab and I really like it. I am a bachlor but I can take my brother and nephew and some gear and nothing gets wet. It is a little longedr to get around with but I can live with that. I will; get another next truck.

Jerry

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Davis In SC

01-26-2006 19:35:26

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Re: How about cabs? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 18:48:08

I like my dually for towing, but it is kinda wide at times... Parking spots, etc. As far as the cab goes, my new truck has the extra cab, but it seems like it is just a place to put stuff... Reminds me, I need to clean it out this weekend...

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ustabfarmer

01-26-2006 18:41:08

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

I didn"t get my one ton dually til last June, but I can"t imagine being happy with a SWR. I haven"t been in any heavy snow or mud but I have been on some ground that was pretty well frozen and didn"t have any trouble with traction at all.

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CubbinCal

01-26-2006 18:22:39

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

A few years back I had a SRW 3/4 ton and DRW 1 ton. I pulled a 29' travel trailer with both. The trailer would yank the srw where ever it wanted to but the drw could go straight as an arrow down the highway at 75mph. I only have one full size truck now and its a dually. Go with the drw.

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Mydeere

01-26-2006 16:52:50

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

In the past I have always had SRW but my last truck I got DRW. The DRW seems to ride a little better and there"s more rubber in contact with the road which also helps braking.

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JD9295

01-26-2006 16:52:22

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

Rich it depends on what your going to do. The single gets around better in the mud and slick times.
If your going to pull a lot of loads on the high way go with the duelly, it wont try to sway with you. I have a f-350 srw and a chevy drw and drive the ford for normal loads and daily and the chevy for heavy loads on the road

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Kevin Bismark

01-26-2006 16:34:18

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

I like to really load her down if I have something heavy to haul so I alway"s go with the DRW, don"t get much traction in the snow and mud, but then again I don"t spend a lot of time driving in that stuff anyway, never noticed any difference with fuel milage, got friends with the SRW and they get the same

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old

01-26-2006 16:20:07

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to Rich Iowa, 01-26-2006 15:51:46

My self I prefer singles because some times DRW can be help less on wet grass. But if your going to really load it down then I prefer the DRW. Sort of a catch 22 each have there good points and there bad points.

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mjbrown

01-27-2006 05:22:30

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to old, 01-26-2006 16:20:07

Duallies are fine in snow IF you put winter tires on them. We have three at work , an F350 and two E350's (Quigly kits) all with winter tires. Upstate NY.

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old

01-27-2006 08:02:26

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to mjbrown, 01-27-2006 05:22:30

Then there most be something wrong with the 1 ton I have. 1965 ford with Duallies and with snow tires and it gets stuck on wet grass and forget snow unless its loaded.

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Leroy

01-30-2006 16:26:16

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Re: 1 Tonners SRW or DRW? in reply to old, 01-27-2006 08:02:26

That is the way my 86 F250 2 wheel drive is, stuck on wet grass, no go in snow. 74 Chevy 1/2T lot better on traction, 2 wheel drive as well

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