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Lincoln

01-25-2006 08:22:03




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Where can a guy find good drill bits these days. I know I will probably have to spend some $, but nothing is more frustrating than a cheap drill bit when you are making a hole. Does anyone know of a good brand name or supplier where I can get a good set. Thanks




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slowfolk

01-30-2006 05:19:07




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
Make sure you buy drill bits with the letters HSS stamped on them. (High speed steel) cheaper bits are made of carbon steel.



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KIP in MX

01-26-2006 17:18:27




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
We use Precision brand bits, mostly on stainless, aluminum, and some composites. They aren�t cheap, but you will have a hard time finding better.

As others said below, MSC to get them.



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john d

01-26-2006 09:45:56




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
This is one area where the import products may or may not measure up to the made-in-USA stuff, and you won't know until you try them. I recommend ONLY drills that are stamped "Made in USA" because most of them are good. As a previous poster put it, the import and Harbor Freight drills are a "crap shoot."

If you have a Sears tool store nearby, Sears Craftsman drills are pretty good, and pretty consistent. I've had good success with drills made by Triumph, Vermont American, Cleveland, and others made in USA. Some of these may be available at your local hardware.

For use at home in my shop area, I've had good luck buying them from the link below. I'm not too far from one of their stores, but they do sell over the phone or on-line.

We use a lot of their cutting tools in the school shop area.

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MikeCatthemuseum

01-25-2006 18:03:57




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
Cleveland, Putnam, Triumph, Chicago/Latrobe are my faves. You'll spend some cash for an index, but as I have said before, as long as they don't fall into the hands of a bunch of gorillas who don't care whether they get broken, burned up, burred due to chuck slip, or lost, they will last you a dozen years or more. One of those $80 Drill Dr.s is a good investment, too. That will let those bits last two dozen years.

HF is a crapshoot, you may get a hundred holes, you may not finish one. I see somebody got an extremely hard set that works well. I have a set at work where somebody leaned on a hand drill and bent the 3/32" 90 degrees like a finish nail. Needless to say, they barely cut butter.

Look around your area for a surplus industrial tool dealer. There's one here that sells top quality American made drill bits, most brand new or at the worst toolroom sharpened for $5 a handful (can't sell by weight anymore as his scales are not certified and the govt scale certification geek got pissy).

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the tractor vet

01-25-2006 13:10:49




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
I get mine from Ohio Drill in Homeworthe Ohio. they make them there and they are good quality . It is just a short drive for me and i just walk in set my dril index down and he goes back and fills it and while they are filling it they sharpen the ones that are in there. Good people and it is made here in this country and in this state with local people not towel heads or wet backs or slant eyes.

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DJM75

01-25-2006 12:52:59




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
also try enco and industrial pipe and steel.



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Eric in Il.

01-25-2006 11:05:53




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
You are right, poor quality drills are aggravating. My suggestion would be to buy a set of jobber length, black oxide finish, M2/M7 high speed steel bits with a 118 degree tip. You are probably looking at 90 to 100 bucks. Try the McMaster-Carr website. They have a very informational/step by step method of choosing the correct drill for your particular need.

When I started the diemaking trade I didn't know if I would ever learn to sharpen a drill correctly by hand. It was not that difficult though, all you need is a properly dressed grinding wheel (not out-of-round), a drill tip guage, patience, and practice. The bigger the drill that you practice on the better, makes it easier to see what you are doing right/wrong. I know you didn't ask about sharpening but drills that are kept sharp will last much longer and cause fewer headaches.

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Jon Hagen

01-25-2006 10:55:41




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
If you need the larger sizes,the silver and demming drill set from 9/16-1 inch. 8 drills in a fitted wood case for $29 from Harbor freight. I have used them for years,they used to sell for $17 per set. If they have a flaw,it is that they are too hard,if you get a bit snagged,you can chip a cutting edge. I once drilled 200 1/2 inch holes in 3/4 inch plate before having to touch up the cutting edge. have also had their 1/2 and down set in a metal storage box for about $30. Quality seemed good there too. HF had some junk,but a lot of good stuff for little money if you use care when shopping.

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Glen in TX

01-25-2006 10:45:33




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
I agree with the post below for suppliers. They have different grades you can pick from depending on what you need. I've got a set of Lawson drill bits but that set only stays in MY tool box for me to use and no one else. They are expensive but work great and you don't have to push on them to get the job done but tool abusers can not use them without breaking them. I had some of the Craftsmen drill bits but they quit replacing them for me and they didn't work well with hired help. Lawson has only had to replace a small one.

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Theman

01-25-2006 10:32:28




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Lincoln, 01-25-2006 08:22:03  
MSC has quite a variety of drills (see link). Also, McMaster Carr, (America's hardware store -my name for it anyway) also has a pretty fair selection. Then there's Travers Tool.

You are certainly right about drill bit quality. A good drill is worth paying for. I don't especially go for the fancy coatings but want a drill that will continue to be tough after re-sharpening.

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Bret4207

01-26-2006 05:09:29




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Theman, 01-25-2006 10:32:28  
I'll second the MSC recommendation. Absolutly great company to work with. Make sure you get the Big Book" catalog. Months and months of bathroom reading. You may have to brace the crapper though, it weighs 8lbs!



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chvet73

01-26-2006 10:28:12




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 Re: Good drill Bits in reply to Bret4207, 01-26-2006 05:09:29  
McMaster-Carr



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