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PDB

01-19-2006 11:12:33




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I am wanting to build a 30x40 garage or pole barn. I would like the concrete foundation and floor of a garage but if it costs too much I am going to go with a pole barn. I am going to do the carpentry work myself. I have a level lot and would like to know if anybody has had something similar poured or would know how much I can expect to spend on such a project.




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bob -OH

01-20-2006 04:20:35




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
I just completed my 30-40 pole barn last week. I built the barn and then had a 4 inch concrete slab poured inside it with a 16 by 4 foot apron outside the overhead door. Concrete was $1600.00 and labor to finish the concrete was $900.

Good luck!



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MikeCatthemuseum

01-19-2006 16:37:27




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
I am right in there with the average price so far. Had a 30x36' poured last October. 5" thick, 4000# mix, fiber reinforced, and I put in 1500ft of #3 rebar. I did my own rebar and tying, my own forming and then hired out the finishing (not about to try to learn how on my machine shop floor!). I also applied a sealer/curing agent that made it the prettiest floor in town (only $50 for 5 gallons). By the time I walked on the floor I spent right at $3000. BTW, my 19yds including 10% extra turned into 21, so count on more concrete than you calculate for sure.

This floor is bulletproof. I have a 7000lb lathe and a 5000lb mill on one end and it hasn't budged or cracked. I really had a tough time deciding to spend the extra money making the floor that 1" thicker, using rebar instead of mesh, ordering the 4000# mix and giving them the extra few bucks for the fiber reinforcement. In the end I would have been an idiot not to have. It was worth every penny I spent.

Don't waste time with the wire mesh. If it is light enough to handle without a crane it is nearly worthless. Rebar can be blocked up and doesn't end up sinking to the bottom or floating like the mesh will. The rebar cost me about $50 LESS than mesh for my shop. You have to buy complete rolls of mesh and I would have wasted about a half roll.

Due to everything going up in the last year, you might add about 25% to that figure. Count on $4000 and you'll have money left over if you do it right.

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JMS/MN

01-19-2006 14:49:47




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
Your 30x40 project is 1200 square feet. The perimeter needs to be thicker, so add some to that. One yard of concrete gives you 81 square feet, four inches thick. If a yard is $80, concrete costs you about a dollar per square foot, four inches thick. Fill, forms, rerod, labor, etc. is extra. Here, typical custom job runs 2- 2 1/2 times the per yard cost of concrete.



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jndrgreen

01-19-2006 13:28:04




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
Well, you have about 15 cubic yards of concrete.
That is 15 x ($75/cy)= $1125 Probably double that cost for forms and labor, unless you finish and form it all yourself.

I just built a 25 x 30 enclosed shop with 30 x 50 open (total area was 30' x 75'). The concrete for the 25 x 30 and 4 more footings cost me $4700 to complete.

I would think you could do it for 3-$4,000.



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caseyc

01-19-2006 12:56:45




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
i just built a 26x30 garage with a 15' apron. i dug down to clay/gravel, approx. 2-3' in my area. had 12 loads of nice, hard packing gravel hauled in. after i leveled the gravel off i dug a 12" wide by 12" deep trench around the outside walls for garage to act as a footing and to help support the weight of the building. poured the garage "pad" in two parts and then poured the apron. used expansion joint between the apron and garage but not between the two garage pads. i poured the the footings and pad as one. just formed with 2x12's and the gravel was higher in the center. 4" thick pad. i used cattle panels in the concrete and used rebar between the two garage pads to keep them from heaving. did all the work my self except for the gravel hauling and the concrete mixing. when i called the redi-mix place a month prior to the project he said they would be working on a state project at the same time close by so he could save a great deal of money. the going rate for concrete at the time of delivery was $85 a yard. when the trucks were done delivering the last driver said the boss will be out to collect. the boss showed up about an hour later and asked if i had cash. i said yes so it cost me $25 a yard. i ordered 15 yards, paid for 15 yards but actually recieved close to 20 yards in the end. all my barn doors have nice approaches now and a few slabs around for water troughs for the livestock! the whole "concrete project" cost me $1200, that includes all material and misc. odds and ends.

casey

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james lee

01-22-2006 06:28:05




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to caseyc, 01-19-2006 12:56:45  
Casey, sure would like to know where you got your concrete. Company name and location thanks a bunch.



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Tim (IA)

01-19-2006 12:43:32




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
Here is an interesting and useful "calculator" for determining how much concrete you might need for a project. I do not know what current costs are, but they are driven by fuel prices (it takes a lot of energy to make cement from limestone) so expect costs to be much higher than last summer.

http://www.ozinga.com/index.cfm?fa=tool.calc&cfid=4070889&cftoken=27430513



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Billy NY

01-19-2006 12:09:47




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
Are you talking a knee wall ( short foundation wall with footing ) and a slab ? I like that idea, especially for a building that is to be enclosed, curious as to what the detail would be at the column, would you drop the column ( pole ) below grade and encase around it or leave it above grade, encased in concrete, with some sort of base plate connection embedded in the concrete, I've pondered this myself, 3 concerns are; structural, decay of the column bases and frostline. I've always wanted to build one similar and keep the columns above grade somehow, even though .40 or .60 CCA pressure treated may not require this, I'm always overkill, has to last 100 years LOL !

On the concrete, just take the dimensions of your form(s), I'll use the slab for example, say 30'-0" x 40'-0" = 1200 sq ft. x thickness of slab = 6" divide 6" into 12" ( 12" = 1 foot ) you get 0.5 as a decimal to multiply so 1200 x 0.5 = 600 cu. ft. divide by 27 ( 27 cu. ft. in one cu. yd.) = 22.2 cubic yards of concrete x $90.00/cu. yd like it is around here = $1998.00 not including reinforcing like 6"x6" woven wire mesh, or rebar, and this does not include forming, placing, finishing, stripping of forms. Also with this quantity I'd order 23cu. yds., hate to be short, so a little extra is not included usually 1/2 to 1 yard over will suffice, been there done that, just the cost of doing business

If you do plan some sort of knee wall, take the dimensions and multiply to get the cubic footage, of say a footing and the wall, then do the above math to get the cubic yardage, if the wall is 12" thick, then multiply by 1 to get the cubic foot volumn, less then 1 foot or 12" take that thickness dimension and divide by 12 to get the decimal equivalent of the thickness to plug in for the cubic foot volume. Most likely you will contract it out, and if so, at least you can get an idea of material cost up front, then ask the contractor how many days to do the job, you can then plug in his estimated labor cost and arrive at an accurate number to compare with others, also helps you from getting gouged, some of these guys will throw a high number at people just to see if they will bite.

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Ralph J. Butteris Jr.

01-19-2006 11:44:35




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
It will take 14.813 cubic yards of Concrete
= 30' x 40' 4 inch thick
Call local condrete company for cost per cubic yard and you will have your answer



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cj3b_jeep

01-19-2006 11:42:04




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
Can't say for the concrete, but a block foundation is $2.50 a block if you have someone else lay it, that includes the price of the block. $1.25 per block, $1.25 to lay 'em. At least in my neck of the woods



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Dandy Don

01-19-2006 11:35:46




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 Re: Garage Foundation Cost in reply to PDB, 01-19-2006 11:12:33  
I had a 35 x 40 poured in June of 2000, polished with the paddle thing, and a six foot sloped entry all way across the front. Costed me $4000.00 Don



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