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Dennis (VA)

01-18-2006 07:23:17




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Thinking of buying a Harbor Freight wire flux welder.They always seem to have the $349 unit for around $200. I don"t need the best just occasional use to fix thinks around the place. Any thoughts on this?




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pjw

01-21-2006 05:50:38




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 Re: Harbor Freight Welder in reply to Dennis (VA), 01-18-2006 07:23:17  
The only tool that I bought from harbor fruit was any good was an anvil. And real black smith would probably disagree on that!



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chuckinnc

01-19-2006 07:36:22




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 Re: Harbor Freight Welder in reply to Dennis (VA), 01-18-2006 07:23:17  
Dont do it! Ive bought a ton of big ticket items
from harbor freight and like them all except the
chicago brand mig welder, its totally useless, I
opened the case to find only a transformer, some diodes & a wire motor, way to little to be called
a MIG. The model your looking at may be alittle more advanced but if (Chicago brand) mig i have
is any indication of their units then Dont buy one. My mill/drill, engine lathe, drill presses
and all the other HF stuff i have purchased over the past 20 years has worked out great but not the MIG.

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Stan in Oly, WA

01-18-2006 18:21:10




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 Re: Harbor Freight Welder in reply to Dennis (VA), 01-18-2006 07:23:17  
Hi, Dennis

I'd have to cast my vote along with everyone else and advise you to skip the HF welder. At a guess I'd say it might be the most aggravation you could buy for $200.

Harbor Freight sells a few decent products, a lot of average low end products, and a lot of absolute crap. Much of the stuff that you can't immediately identify as crap just by picking it up, you have to buy and use and return, or take the advice of someone else who's used it. What other people have said about this welder, and about cheap welders in general, is absolutely right. Ridiculously low duty cycle, lack of dealer support, replacement parts difficult or impossible to get, unreliable functioning...how much frustration are you willing to put up with, even on an occasional basis? A three dollar hammer might be good enough to pound a nail once in awhile but a $200 mig welder might not be able to do what you need it to do even once. I bought HF's cheapest arc welder for $50 a few years ago, and I couldn't find anything that it would do. They refunded my money without a fuss when I returned it, but it was a waste of my time. I didn't even learn a good lesson from it since I still keep looking for that deal that's too good to be true.

All the best, Stan

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Slowpoke

01-18-2006 11:46:58




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 Re: Harbor Freight Welder in reply to Dennis (VA), 01-18-2006 07:23:17  
I think 150 amps would be the minimum to do any "around the place" welding. I would also want a welder that has a gas option. And the larger the gas bottle, the less per cubic foot to fill.
My first welder was (is) 90 amps gas, and it has all it can do to weld 1x3x1/4" brackets to 2 foot square pieces of 3/32 sheet metal. Just not enough heat.



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jpuleo

01-18-2006 11:27:50




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 Re: Harbor Freight Welder in reply to Dennis (VA), 01-18-2006 07:23:17  
I had a Astro brand 110v mig. It was made in Italy and I think may come from the same plant as the HF. Either way it was an off brand unit even though it came off a MAC tool truck. It worked OK, but when I needed parts, couldnt get them. Unlike arc, migs WILL need parts replaced as they wear. Like feed tubes and tips. When it started to need parts and couldnt get em, I decided to ebay it (I did explain it sometimes jamed) I then purchased a Hobart handler 140. Its a way better machine. I know parts are available and it simply welds better and deeper. If your HF unit was $100 than I would say try it and junk it when it fails. But if your spending $200 just spend and extra $150 and get a good machine. It comes with the mig gas equiptment (less the tank) too. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO SKIP THE HF WELDER at $200!!!

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the tractor vet

01-18-2006 07:43:15




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 Re: Harbor Freight Welder in reply to Dennis (VA), 01-18-2006 07:23:17  
You only get what you pay for and it only cost a dollar more to go first class.



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rad

01-18-2006 07:28:54




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 Re: Harbor Freight Welder in reply to Dennis (VA), 01-18-2006 07:23:17  
I bought one of these and found it entirely unsuitable. The problem I had was that the duty cycle was very low. So I could only weld for a minute then needed to wait 5 before welding again. I was building a brish rake out of 3/16" stock so needed to get some penetration. In the end, I ended up selling the welder (with less than an hour of time on it) for $125 and buying a Miller 210 commercial grade machine. The difference is like night and day.

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