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Propane Torpedo Heater Question

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pbutler

01-16-2006 07:10:49




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I just purchased a propane torpedo heater to use in the shop on the very cold days. It is designed to be used with 100gal protable tank-but I had the propane guy plumb in 1/4" line from my 1000gal tank used to heat the house to the shop.

The heater came with a "regulator" that has a restrictior hole just a bit bigger than a pencil lead. The manual says to be sure and use the regulator-but doesn't address using a bulk tank.

The problem I get is it is very hard to get the heater to fire up-and when it does the flame is really wimpy and barely warm at all. Seems like it is starved for fuel.

I was wondering if the problem is the pressure or the regulator? Does the large 1000gal tank use a different pressure than the little 100gal tanks? I also noticed my grill doesn't have a regulator-and just runs straight off a line from the house.

I suspect that extra regulator may be the problem but don't want to do something foolish and burn down the shed-or shoot flames 30 feet across the building from too much pressure. :)

Any ideas?

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Jon Hagen

01-16-2006 11:02:04




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 Re: Propane Torpedo Heater Question in reply to pbutler, 01-16-2006 07:10:49  
This is a bit of a sticky problem with using that heater in a building. The regulator that comes with your torpedo heater is designed to operate with propane vapor feeding into it at full tank pressure which is going to be 50-150+ psi depending on tank/fuel temperature.

For reasons of safety,as to not quickly fill a building with propane gas from a serious high pressure leak,The regulator at the tank normally reduces full tank pressure to 11 inches of water column(aprox 1/2 psi) in the line leading to the building.
In situations where it is a long run from the tank to the building,or an undersize line for the gas demand,a 2 stage regulator system may be used. This 2 stage system has the regulator at the tank reducing full tank pressure to aprox 10 psi in the line to the building. 10 psi will flow more fuel through a given size/length line than the 1/2 psi would if the pressure reduction was done in a single step at the tank. The 10 psi line pressure is then reduced by a second regulator mounted OUTSIDE the building, to a normal 11 inches of WC or 1/2 psi,so no plumbing with more than 1/2 psi gas pressure is inside the building.

An accident that breaks the high pressure fitting off a 100 pound propane bottle inside the building could be a disaster,and much more so if the line was connected to an external tank at full line pressure with much much more than 100 pounds of propane avalible to leak inside the building.

Several portable propane heaters I have including the torpedo type have regulators and gas jets sized to operate at 5-15 psi,so LEGAL gas plumbing that meets code for inside use will not supply enough fuel at 1/2 psi to operate them.

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Kendall

01-16-2006 09:40:12




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 Re: Propane Torpedo Heater Question in reply to pbutler, 01-16-2006 07:10:49  
Sounds like the propane guy has tapped the low pressure line used to feed the house. You need to tap into the tank before the regulator that feeds the house, then the heaters own regulator will do its thing.



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Mike M

01-16-2006 09:31:24




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 Re: Propane Torpedo Heater Question in reply to pbutler, 01-16-2006 07:10:49  
You better call the propane guy that ran the plumbing.



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Tom in Western PA

01-16-2006 07:17:55




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 Re: Propane Torpedo Heater Question in reply to pbutler, 01-16-2006 07:10:49  
Sounds like you have really low pressure. Are you running two regulators in series? Maybe the 1000 gallon tank has a regulator of its own and you may be adding a second regulator to the equation. I'd start looking there.
Tom



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pbutler

01-16-2006 08:00:59




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 Re: Propane Torpedo Heater Question in reply to Tom in Western PA, 01-16-2006 07:17:55  
Yes, there is one of the round grey regulators outside the building. I bet you are correct. I bet they are serving the same function and cutting it down 2x. I will check that out today.



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Itchy

01-16-2006 08:54:45




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 Re: Propane Torpedo Heater Question in reply to pbutler, 01-16-2006 08:00:59  
Sometimes when it is really cold and I am running the heater in the shop the regulator will freeze up this will cut the flow of gas also. A large amount of gas going through the regulator in cold weather will freeze it. I have had it that rain changing to colder temperatures will also affect the regulator, which could mean a faulty regulator that needs to be replaced.



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