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Gettin' Old

01-12-2006 19:14:21




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Need a GOOD cordless drill,looking for advice.




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Cliff Neubauer

01-14-2006 06:14:47




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
I've got an 18v Milwaukee and love it. It's the only drill in my shop other than the drill press so it get's used pretty hard (2" hole saw through 1/4" steel plate). The Milwaukee's have a carbide tipped chuck that is by far the best chuck I've ever used and I've never had a bit slip in it even in conditions where the drill will rip itself out of your hands.



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Gettin' Old

01-13-2006 13:58:47




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Thanks guys,got some interesting answers,now i have to make up my mind.



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chvet73

01-13-2006 13:07:58




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Check out the 18v Hitachi, I bought it a Lowe's 2 years ago. For $130.00 came with case, flashlight and 3 batteries fo $130. It will out perform any drill I've ever owned.



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deadeye

01-13-2006 08:22:29




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
I have 2 Dewalt's--18 volt. One older one and the other one I bought last summer. Bought both at Harbor Freight and have been very pleased with them...My son is even so pleased with them that he come and borrowed one and didn't bother to return it to the shop....but what are 35 year old kids for???...deadeye



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Chris Pritchard

01-13-2006 07:59:23




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
I would recommend you get somthing that is 18 volts. The power of these drills is unbelevable.

Makita and Dewalt are the two we use. Makita is a pretty good brand; my Acklands dealers says that for every ten Dewalt tools coming in for service, one would be a Makita. Dad used (And still uses) a 9.6v that he got back in the early 90's, and it went through everything.

On the other hand, DeWalt offer decent quality for a cheaper price. Dad is using a DeWalt 18V battery saw quite regularaly on our upper floor and roof renovations, and we find no problem with it. My brother Nic loves his 18v battery drill.

One form of advice would be to get cordless tools of the same brand and battery type. It is quite handy when a battery goes flat on the saw, and the other one is on the charger, to just raid my brother's battery drill case :) .

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Old Depot Guy

01-13-2006 06:32:28




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Battery wise, The NiMH batteries are going to give you longer life and work better in cold weather. They're also a zero-memory battery when it comes time to charging. For features, look at things like the chuck. Is it all steel, or is it plastic?. We all know which one will survive the drop from the roof. Also, if you are using bigger bits, you'll want a 1/2" as opposed to a 3/8". A couple brands (like Milwaukee) also offer a hammer drill option. If you go DeWalt, be sure not to confuse the contractor series to the compacts. The compacts are a lower grade with a weaker motor on par with a common B&D. Personally, I'm currently using a Makita 14.4 with a 1/2 steel chuck and the 2.6 NiMH batteries. It's an oustanding device and it's more ergonomic, making it easier to use for long periods of time.

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steve in in

01-13-2006 05:48:30




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
I will echo the votes for Milwaukee. I have had two of the 14.4v Milwaukees for several years. Just recently one of the batteries refused to charge after sitting on the concrete floor of my barn for about 5 months. I drained all the juice from it and it still refused to charge. I shorted the terminals and put it back on the charger. It then sat on the charger for 24 hours and revved my drill right up.

They may be heavy, but they are well balanced when you are working with them. On the model I have, you can slide the battery in forward or backward.

I got them on clearance for $109 a piece. Now they go on sale for what, $169 maybe. Having two drills is really convenient. It allows you to have a drill bit in one and a driver in the other. Though a self loading dedicated driver would be nice too.

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been old done that

01-13-2006 05:08:56




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
just WHAT are you thinking of doing with it?



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Ohio/Farmer

01-13-2006 05:04:55




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Check out,www.Voltmanbatteries.com He will re-build all kind of batteries for cordless drills.



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Galen

01-13-2006 05:02:35




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Well - I was a contractor up until this year (health reasons, I had to quit) and I have DeWalt, Ryobi, Makita and a couple of no-name stuff. The DeWalt is BY FAR the best - durable, longer lasting charge. I stick to 14.4v (Ryobi I have 18), because of the extra weight and cost of 18v. I do also have a couple of the smaller 9.6v that perform well. Both of the DeWalt 14.4's I have I bought "reconditioned" - the newest one is 5 years old. They both have been dropped from second story windows (more than once!), and keep going! I've borrowed Milwaukee, they are a decent drill, but don't have a good "feel" to them. I have 8 DeWalt batteries (the 2 newest are 5 years old), since 1997, I have had only 1 battery die - and that was because it fell from a second story roof! Ryobi is OK, but it just doesn't have the power of DeWalt, and the charge doesn't last as long. I store my tools in my truck tool box year-round in Nebraska and have had ZERO problems. I also use a 15 minute quick charger constantly and once a month charge them on the one hour charger. You'll get as varied of answers on this as yo would on tractors! IMHO, I'd go DeWalt 14.4v - nothing better!

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hay

01-13-2006 05:02:31




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
i did have a SKIL 12volt that lasted almost 10 years and a cheapie Chicago Electric from harbor freight that lasted almost 8 years. the skil just up and died one day and the CE fell off the roof onto a cement slab and went into several pieces and it still worked....a little. now i have a Black and Decker 12 volt and it is nothing to brag about, but does get the job done.



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deanop

01-13-2006 04:53:30




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
oops...my drill fell about 16' not 16"!



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Vern-MI

01-13-2006 04:53:07




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
I have the Dewalt model DW959, 18 volt drill with two batteries. It also has a 1/2 inch keyless chuck which has a click lock feature as the chuck is tightened. It really locks down tight on the bit and prevents slip and gaulling of the shank.

I also have an older Dewalt model DW995, 18 volt, 1/2 inch drill which still works good and it is about 12 years old.

I haven't had any problems with either one of these drills.

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deanop

01-13-2006 04:51:49




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
nobody mentioned sears...for what i do they are good drills...just dropped mine from the roof of the lean to i"m building (yesterday)..i"ve got 16.8 volt with the worklight...i love the worklight..these drills are identical, probably about 10 years old...batteries are somewhat expensive....anyway that drill that hit the ice from about 16", it busted the case, and parts went flying..quik steel and a little patience and it works better than ever...model 973271830..like i said i think they are good drills, but probably not the best on the market...

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BFO

01-13-2006 04:19:50




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
So far the best luck I have had is with Hilti. I've got the 18v, and the 36v TE6a



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Tuggle

01-13-2006 04:16:22




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
I am not happy with my 18v Makita.
It fits my hand good but after a year of light use, both batterys are weak. My 14v DeW. is older and still working with the original battery.



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Ranger John

01-13-2006 04:12:23




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
I have a Bosch, Ryobi and a Black and Decker. And that order is the order of preference. The Bosch is just a touch nicer and more powerful than the Ryobi. I have not had to replace batteries in any of them yet. Even the B & D which is over 10 years old use original batteries. I don't use cords at all if I can avoid it.



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Hurryin_Hoosier

01-13-2006 04:07:36




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
I second those who like the Ryobi. I bought the 18v, 5-tool kit (drill, circular saw, recip saw, vac & light, 2 batts) and have been very satisified. I just built a large deck with composite materials and put a lot of deck screws down with the drill. The circ and recip saws do kill a battery pretty quick though. Batteries recharge in about an hour.

For what I paid for the 5 piece Ryobi kit I would have only been able to buy the DeWalt drill alone. It doesn't have quite the power of my FIL's Makita, but it also costs less than half as much.

As I recall, Consumer Reports rated the Ryobi a best buy, even though its power was just a notch below the expensive DeWalts, Makitas, etc.

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if you want the best

01-13-2006 02:46:58




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
buy panasonic



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J.C. IN AZ.

01-12-2006 22:30:42




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
When I dropped my Dewalt from the top of my Step ladder I decided that was it. No more quality High priced tools like that for what I need them for. Went to Home Depot looking, came home with two 7.2 Volt Riobi's. Never been sorry. Less than $30.00 each and perform very well. Since then I bought another to carry in the Camping Trailer.I have two Dewalt Corded 3/8" Drills for the heavy work so these suit me just fine.You get a nice Case, Small Box with several Drill Bits, Straight and Phillips Bits w/ Magnetic Adapter, an assortment of Small Sockets with Drive Adapters plus the Charger. Very nice for use when needed in the Camper.

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jpuleo

01-12-2006 21:47:46




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Ryobi. I also worked as a contractor. I have 3 dewaltt's and the ryobi is just as good...well actually better. Battery packs are 1/2 the price too! I also have a Millualkee 19v and thats good too. The 18v Ryobi is just as good. It was also rated as best buy by one of the major woodworking articles. If I had to be honest, the ryobi is a better quality tool than the dewaltts. Battery pack prices are the major issue with all drills. Even if the ryobi was the same price as the milualkee, Id buy it b/c its battery packs are 1/2 the price. I know I sound like a salesman, but from where Im sitting and have been.....its a no brainer.

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van robinson

01-12-2006 21:38:58




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Milwaukee all the way. I work for Milwaukee Tools in Mississippi. We are the only electric tool maker that still builds and assembles power tools in this country. The rest are in China or Mexico. The 18 volt drills are great, but the new 28 volt stuff we have now is just awesome. You would be hard pressed to find a corded drill that can outdo the V28 Milwaukee drill.



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T

01-12-2006 20:51:59




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Ryobi sold at home depot is very rugged for the money....I am a contractor and use daily...I had dewalt which is twice the money and the ryobi has lasted twice as long....get the 18 volt



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Roy Suomi

01-12-2006 20:30:32




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Dewalt makes a tough drill . We have one where I work, everyone takes it home for projects.. It won't die. It's been put through the wringer.. Over 9 years old , original battery....



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fixerupper

01-12-2006 19:53:48




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
Seems like I keep grabbing the 18v Makita first instead of the 18v Bosch. The Makita sems to be more solid, though it doesn't seem to run as long as I think it should on a charge and replacement batteries are $100+. Just had the Bosch replaced because the nose twisted off while scewing in lag bolts and the new one is physically smaller, about the size of a twelve volt, but seems to have quite a bit of torque. The old one seemed a little clutzy. I haven't had the new one long enough to test the battery charge. Had a Dewalt 18v. for awhile and it ran the longest time of any of them on a charge, but the chuck never did grip the bit well enough. My biased opinion of a Dewalt is it is the lowest quality of the higher dollar drills. Maybe the new ones are better. Don't know what your budget is or how much you plan to use the drill but if you put it through heavy use, biting the bullet and spending the extra bucks is worth it. Jim

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RustyFarmall

01-12-2006 19:21:08




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to Gettin' Old, 01-12-2006 19:14:21  
I've got one of those 18 volt Black and Decker Firestorms that I am satisfied with. Had to replace the charging unit after a couple of years, but no other problems.



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john d

01-15-2006 15:21:14




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 Re: Cordless drill in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-12-2006 19:21:08  
I had the same problem - original charger lasted about two years! The 18 volt drill is now about 8 years old and has taken a LOT of use and abuse.



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