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Mice in my Torpedo!

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cj3b_jeep

01-09-2006 07:27:59




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Just about every time I go out to my workshop and turn on my 90,000 BTU torpedo heater, a mouse comes shooting out the front of it. Last night, it was two mice. They come out pretty stunned. Could I make a chickenwire cover for each end to keep 'em out? I'd hate to have a flaming mouse fly outta there and into a box of lumber.




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Molerj

01-11-2006 05:20:10




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
That mouse catching the house on fire sure sounded suspicious to me. Turns out it wasn"t true after all.



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cj3b_jeep

01-10-2006 05:57:35




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
Last night I took the cover off and found a nest in there between the fan unit and the heating unit, I cleaned out the mess and blew all of the crap out with my compressor. I made screens for each end and fastened them under the screws that hold the top on. I made the front one stick out 6-7 inches from the nozzle, it heats up, but does not melt or glow.
I bought this heater at an auction this past summer, the nest must've been in there when I bought it because the material the mice used was not something that can be found in my garage or my house. Looked like they separated the strands from some kind of rope.

I was suprised to see the heater has an automotive spark plug to fire the kerosene.

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Charles (in GA)

01-10-2006 07:35:48




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-10-2006 05:57:35  
Sounds like you got a couple of mice in the price of the heater.

One of my neighbors had a real nice fridge in his kitchen, a large side by side. It was one of the ones with a blower in the bottom/back for the condenser. The unit quit cooling correctly and his handyman found the blower motor had quit. They installed a new motor and it worked fine, for a month or so. Suddenly it was not cooling again. This time my neighbor, who is old and was beginning to show signs of senility anyhow, just went out and bought another fridge. When they went to carry out the old one, they found the cause of it not cooling, a mouse wedged in the new fan they had installed!

Charles

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old bones

01-09-2006 18:50:30




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
if you're pretty sure that mice will be in the area of the heater, why not make a screen "end cap" for both ends of it. put them on after you shut it off, take them off when you go to fire it up. that'll keep them out when you're not using it, and it's likely they wom't try climbing in when it's running. try using 1/8" hardware cloth. a mouse can't get through that small of an opening. or- coffee cans over the ends held together with a bungee cord?
my 2 cents
old bones

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Mike M

01-09-2006 09:20:35




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
I would not run that heater again until I tore it apart and made sure all the nest is also out of there. Then I would try that hardware cloth idea,except on the outlet it may not work good as it may get red hot and melt ? I'd just keep a close eye on it at first run.



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Charles (in GA)

01-09-2006 10:45:32




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to Mike M, 01-09-2006 09:20:35  
I too thought about overheating the wire over the outlet. Hardware cloth is easily formed and could be made into a basket looking affair that would get it further from the heat. 6 inches further from the fire would make all the difference in the world.

Charles



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Charles (in GA)

01-09-2006 09:13:31




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
One word..... . CATS. While I have a lazy, overweight, aging (12 years old) longhaired male who owns the house, I do keep three female short hairs outside. They are my mousers, females are the hunters of the species. They are well fed, have an insulated, heated house on the screened in back porch to sleep in and seek refuge from the cold, even equipped with heat pads too, plus a red 25 watt bulb for heat (40 watt in below freezing weather), stays in the 60's or 70's in there.

I let them roam in the shop when it is open, and they usually leave me dead mice on the back porch to prove their worth to me. Cannot live in the country without them.

Charles

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old

01-09-2006 08:44:18




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
I have a few cats you can have. Since haveing the cats around the only place I see mice any more are in the chicken pen. And thats a place the cats don't go. Also chichen wire isn't small enough to keep the mice out. You need hard ware screen 1/4 or smaller to do that.



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Case Lady

01-09-2006 08:18:18




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
and the only thing that stinks worse than a mouse is a burnt mouse....trust me on that one....if you can find some stuff called One Bite - comes in a yellow flat brick shape, put that in your shop....unless you have animals that you want to keep alive in there....it will kill a good sized dog deader'n a hammer in about 3 minutes and that ain't pretty to watch.



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cj3b_jeep

01-09-2006 07:53:02




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
It is a coincidence that I'd ask about this the same day that a mouse catches a house on fire in New Mexico. Want to hear another coincidence? My first newspaper job was at the Clovis News-Journal. Used to go to Ft. Sumner a lot.

I think I'll get a bit of Decon and take the top off the heater and make screen for it.

Thanks for the info



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Bus Driver

01-09-2006 16:32:08




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:53:02  
Many years ago, before "safety matches", there were several instances of house fires believed to be started by mice. The mice would chew into a box of matches, ignite one match by chewing and the whole box would go up in flames. We kept our matches in a closed metal container, an old Crisco can.



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CRUSADER

01-09-2006 08:11:31




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:53:02  
Hello cj3b,
Are you still in New Mexico? I left Clovis last September to go to Korea. My lady is still living there and has her own business.

Jim



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cj3b_jeep

01-09-2006 08:45:59




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to CRUSADER, 01-09-2006 08:11:31  
Nope, I went from Clovis to Korea also, but this was in 1986. I was stationed at Cannon back when they had f-
111's and went to Suwon, South Korea to work A-10s.



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deerhound

01-09-2006 07:42:40




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  

You got to be careful of those mice. This just happened in Fort Sumner, NM.

Monday, January 9, 2006

Mouse Sets House on Fire

The Associated Press FORT SUMNER� A mouse got its revenge against a homeowner who tried to dispose of it in a pile of burning leaves. The blazing creature returned to the man"s house and set it on fire. Luciano Mares, 81, of Fort Sumner said he caught the mouse inside his house and wanted to get rid of it. "I had some leaves burning outside, so I threw it in the fire, and the mouse was on fire and ran back at the house," Mares said from a motel room Saturday. Village Fire Chief Juan Chavez said the burning mouse ran to just beneath a window. The flames spread up the window and throughout the house. All contents of the home were destroyed, he said. No injuries were reported. Unseasonably dry and windy conditions have charred more than 53,000 acres and destroyed 10 homes in southeastern New Mexico in recent weeks. "I"ve seen numerous house fires," village Fire Department Capt. Jim Lyssy said, "but nothing as unique as this one." Information from: Clovis News Journal

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Bob

01-09-2006 07:41:11




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
Have you tried feeding the mice?

Mine REALLY like Rampage bait packs.



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Charles (in GA)

01-09-2006 07:40:21




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 07:27:59  
Funny you should mention flaming mice, read this CNN article.

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Stan in Oly, WA

01-09-2006 08:20:32




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to Charles (in GA), 01-09-2006 07:40:21  
Hi Charles,

Let's see if I have this right; this old man in NM feels he needs to punish this mouse for being a mouse by killing it as horribly as possible. The blazing mouse runs back into the house where it lives and sets the house on fire.

At least the mouse burner can take some comfort in knowing that the fire also killed a lot of spiders that deserved to die for being spiders, cockroaches that deserved to die for being cockroaches, and possibly even, most comforting of all, more mice that doubly deserved to die--- first for being mice and second for being related to the original should-never-have-chosen-to-be-a-mouse mouse.

There are reasons that living things have to be killed, but none I can think of why they have to be killed with maximum suffering.

Stan

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Billy NY

01-09-2006 11:27:21




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 01-09-2006 08:20:32  
Yeah, I agree, that is barbaric/childish, certainly got his revenge though LOL ! I respect the critters, if they are to be rid of, nice to do it quickly & humanely no matter what it is. I've had trouble with mice in the past, but nothing more than nuisance type issues for years, then they got a little more creative, chewed the phone wires a year ago, made a huge mess in one of my trucks that had been parked for a little while, so I mostly trap them with the old standard traps, nailed 24 of them in and around my vehicles recently, mostly field mice. If I catch a live one, I'll put him in a bucket, leave a dish of water, toss some crumbs of something in there, take him way into the back where he can't come back here and I feel that I did the right thing, I'll get off the tractor and move toads, snakes, turtles etc., whenever I see anything that is in danger and I can do it safely, been doin that since I was a kid, just my way of being fair, no need to be a savage to the critters, unless they are threatening, or dangerous, if so, be humane about it if you have to do what you have to do. I even avoid mowing when the turtles come out to lay their eggs, this year I cordoned off a nest I saw being made, 90 days later I carefully dug it up and I've got 5 wintertime garage dwellers to set free in the spring, little fan club in a fish tank, always glad to see you, they eat like crazy, skunks usually get the eggs, I kinda raise some every year to balance things, nice to have summertime friends in the winter, they go free into a 20 acre pond in the spring, been doin that since a kid too, some people go out of their way to squash them on the road, makes no sense to me.

Mice, they move inside late summer/fall, have to keep them in check somehow, there are numerous wild cats around here, besides coyote and this bobcat I see now, all hunters, one domestic/wild cat took a young rabbit outside my window, I almost shot him, sometimes I take in a cottontail and raise it on clover and dandelion, then let it go shortly after, they hang around and are friendly, I find abandoned babies around in the spring, place is loaded with them actually, but that feline was doing his job so although he got my little buddy, nature is nature. Even with these wild cats, the mice population stays consistent. I find the good old traps used in numbers helps quite a bit. My mother used to use that damn D-Con and they took so much of it, stored it hidden away, years and years later, they are still finding it and stumbling out in the open half dead, die in my toolbox, or die in the walls (stinks something terrible) it's nasty worthless stuff, then you toss the poison laden guy out and something else eats it, and gets sick. When I toss the trapped ones out, no worry and shortly something like a crow gets a free meal. It all works out, no poison needed. My dog used to live in the heated cellar with a garage flapper door, a Rhodesian ridgeback, my best buddy for years, she inisted on putting that damn poison out and he got sick that fall, he was 12, but that spring the vet gave him a clean bill of health, 100% but to this day I will never know if he got into the D-con or not, I worked away during the week, and he had some sort of seizure on a Sunday afternoon whenit was time to leave, I had to put him down, had no choice, had him at the vet all week, came home for that weekend, was the worst damn thing I've ever done, and I hate that poison, it's worthless stuff.

I've found that eliminating places where they live, keeping clutter away from the house, sealing off entrances they use, really helps. Used to let the field next to the house grow, now I keep it cut, even a clump of grass will provide shelter for them, if they live in a pile of junk nearby, they will be around and not go away, lot of little things help keep them in check around here.

More of my worthless babbling, LOL home sick today, damn common cold and sinus nonsense !

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Stan in Oly, WA

01-09-2006 19:57:32




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to Billy NY, 01-09-2006 11:27:21  
Hi Billy,

That's a good way to live---not that you need anyone to tell you that. Living in harmony with the natural world is its own reward. Okay now, let me take off my wise old Buddhist monk robe so you can see my Concrete Driveways Are Best tee shirt.

Sorry about your cold; if it's the one that was going around here (probably not since we're a whole continent apart) it's a total female dog, if you take my meaning. I got sick the Sunday before xmas, missed 3 days work that week, got much sicker when I tried to put in a day on Thursday, and I was still about half worthless on New Year's Day (more than half by some accounts.) Yesterday, Jan 8th, I was still coughing so hard that it felt like I was going to blow out a lung. In short, good luck.

I don't know how far "way into the back" is but I've heard that mice can find their way home from farther away than you would guess. What works pretty good is to put them on the far side of a creek, or similar.

All the best, Stan

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cj3b_jeep

01-09-2006 08:51:46




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 01-09-2006 08:20:32  
I have some left over metal mesh that you put under fake rock, has a small opening and is pretty flexible. I'm not sure why the guy in Ft. Sumner decided that the best way to dispose of the mouse was into an inferno, but that would not be my choice. I don't really even care for mousetraps all that much. I've thought about putting one of our cats out there, but they are all the pampered indoor variety and would not like the harsh climate out there right now.

I don't mind the mice too much, I just don't want them to start eating wiring on my Willys Jeep or my tractor.

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rustyj14

01-18-2006 10:17:02




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 Re: Mice in my Torpedo! in reply to cj3b_jeep, 01-09-2006 08:51:46  
Came home last night, from a bluegrass jamm session, around 12 p.m. Wife asleep, cat studying something under her (The wifes', not the cats') electric scooter, tail wagging some, didn't want to move away from scooter! I turned it on and moved it forward, and there sat a very scared, bedraggled mouze, one leg not working, and the cat leering at it, with a very interested look! so, i got a plastic cup, a calendar from the wall, covered the mouze with the cup, slid the calendar under it, went outside, and gave the mouze the "heave-ho"! And, the cat was mad at me, because she wanted to bite me, since i ruined her fun. We don't have a mouze problem since we got the cat, and any who venture inside don't get far!

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