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RustyFarmall

01-01-2006 10:24:43




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I just aquired an older Craftsman lathe, model 109.22370. Where can I find a manual? Also, until I get a manual, what is the method used for getting the chuck to run true? It is out by quite a bit right now, enough that I can't use it. It does not seem to have significant wear, maybe the shaft is bent?




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JV3CII

01-05-2006 14:32:25




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-01-2006 10:24:43  
Hi Rusty. Try www.lathes.co.uk . I had a little look around and there's a fair old bit of info on Craftsman lathes. He might even have a manual kicking around...



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Davidz

01-02-2006 06:04:37




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-01-2006 10:24:43  
Check oldwwmachines.com, they have pics, and can identify it and it s manufacturer. I have one and I like mine. It was my grandfathers and I do recreational wwing, not any production. FOr me its great. Anyway have fun with yours.



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John in MA

01-01-2006 16:47:41




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-01-2006 10:24:43  
The 109 Craftsman lathes are NOT made by Clausing/Atlas. They"re from a company called AA Products. I hate to say it, but they"re probably the most horrible lathe ever made. It"s more of a learning toy or a dollhouse-part-making machine. Any parts you find will cost more than the lathe it worth as a working tool. Almost every one on the used market these days has a bent spindle, so that might be part of your chuck problem. Most people end up making a new spindle with no through-hole.

Sell it on eBay to one of the weirdos who pay money for them. The procedes and buy a real lathe. Even the tiny import 7x10" or vintage Atlas 6" lathes are lightyears better.

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RustyFarmall

01-01-2006 16:57:17




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to John in MA, 01-01-2006 16:47:41  
John, the lathe was free, all I had to do was go get it, and it wasn't that far. It is complete with ALL of extra gears, as well as a box full of tooling, along with a browne and sharp 0 to 1 in. micrometer in excellent condition. I believe that I can afford to invest a few more dollars and turn this into a very useful tool.



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John in MA

01-03-2006 18:48:01




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-01-2006 16:57:17  
Most of the people I know who got different lathes after owning one of these couldn't believe the difference. I was serious when I mentioned selling it. You could probably get enough money for it on eBay to buy an import 7", which is an infinitely stronger and more versatile machine. Keep some of the tooling and the B&S mic.

If you really insist on using this thing, there are a couple of Yahoo email lists devoted to AA and Craftsman lathes. A more general machining forum like the rec.crafts.metalworking newsgroup might be handy, but most guys don't like talking about these.

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RustyFarmall

01-04-2006 06:17:59




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to John in MA, 01-03-2006 18:48:01  
John, I know what I have, and I know it isn"t much. I worked in the tool room at a factory for 15 years and this little craftsman won"t hold a candle to the cincinnatti"s, colchester"s, and clausing"s. We even had a relatively small and quite ancient southbend that was lightyears ahead of this little 109 model but because it came from a family member I can"t get rid of it. Someday I will own a real lathe, but for now this little toy will have to do.

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Redd

01-01-2006 15:18:13




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-01-2006 10:24:43  
If its like the little old Craftsman lathe we got (they're actually Craftsman/Atlas I'm told), the chuck is threaded on to the spindle. You can usually get them off by opening the jaws out and hitting one with a block of wood, right hand thread I believe. I think the chucks are mounted to a face palte type outfit. You can actually buy one and bolt a chuck to it. That's what my dad did.



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RustyFarmall

01-01-2006 17:02:09




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to Redd, 01-01-2006 15:18:13  
Thank you Redd, I know I ran across something somewhere that mentioned about truing up the face plate, but I couldn't figure out how to get to it.



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sjh

01-01-2006 15:05:53




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-01-2006 10:24:43  
Try E-bay. There are many manuals on there.



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billyandmillie

01-01-2006 11:52:34




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-01-2006 10:24:43  
Rusty,You can buy anything you need for your Craftsman lathe including a manual at Clausing Service Center, PO Box 877, Goshen, In, 46527. Their phone number is not toll free (219-533-0371) Their website is Link Have fun, I do with mine



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big jt

01-01-2006 11:16:28




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-01-2006 10:24:43  
Hey Rusty

I am assuming you are talking about a 3 jaw self centering chuck. That being said are you sure the chuck is offcenter? Is the outside body of the chuck off or does work chucked up not center?

If the out side body is on or near and work is way off I would suggest that the jaws are in the chuck in the wrong order. Should be able to check by backing way out until the jaws come out. Jaws should have a number stamped in them. Sometimes on the back side. Some chuck bodies will have numbers stamped in for the corresponding jaws also. MOST important when reinstalling make sure the screw plate in the chuck picks up jaw #1 first #2 second and #3 third. If this is the problem this should fix it.

If you are working with a independent jaw chuck you will need to get a dial indicator and center the work every time you chuck up.

If the chuck actually wobbles you have considerably larger problems.

hth

jt

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RustyFarmall

01-01-2006 12:02:23




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 Re: Older Craftsman Lathe in reply to big jt, 01-01-2006 11:16:28  
Having the jaws installed in the correct order and sequence was the first thing I checked, not sure they were correct to begin with, but I know they are now. The chuck actually wobbles, not just the work. Haven't determined yet just how the chuck mounts to the shaft, but everything does seem to be tight.



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