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Mig or Tig to replace stick in a damp shop?

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chuckinnc

12-28-2005 11:35:23




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I recently moved my shop to concerte floor metal
building, ive noticed some light rust on the lathe & milling machine. I have some moisture i didnt have in the old wooden shop attached to the house (which was heated and cooled). I need to upgrade from the stick welder & get a
welder with a bottle instead of worring about rods
getting damp. I do alittle farming but mostly do
alot of hobby type welding & looking im for the best welder to get for my needs.

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the tractor vet

12-29-2005 08:38:38




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 Re: Mig or Tig to replace stick in a damp shop? in reply to chuckinnc, 12-28-2005 11:35:23  
Insulate and put a littel heat in there and this will help a bunch and keep the air moving , metal buildings that are not insulated will sweat . The concret will stay warmer longer when it get cold and stays colder longer when it warms up and turns the building into one big tolit tank witch makes everything wet . But add the insulation and a littel heat and a couple celing fans and it will solve a good bit of your problem. Then it will not matter what welder ya get.

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TomTX

12-28-2005 17:29:27




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 Re: Mig or Tig to replace stick in a damp shop? in reply to chuckinnc, 12-28-2005 11:35:23  
Chuck,
I also have a steel barn on concrete floor. I bought 2 of those welding rod holders that screw shut with an o-ring seal. I only take a handful of rods to the barn at a time and keep them in the holders. I keep the 50 lb box in my house, heated and airconditioned. Not really a problem. You can get the holders in any color at your welding shop, tractor supply, etc.



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chuckinnc

12-28-2005 18:43:56




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 Re: Mig or Tig to replace stick in a damp shop? in reply to TomTX, 12-28-2005 17:29:27  
Thanks Tom it sounds like a cheap and simple fix
ill try TSC this weekend and look for a sealed rod holder, i allready keep most of my rods in the house anyway. I should have known spool of bare wire would also rust, guess ill keep the old miller buzzbox.



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BFO

12-28-2005 15:59:35




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 Re: Mig or Tig to replace stick in a damp shop? in reply to chuckinnc, 12-28-2005 11:35:23  
used rod ovens are pretty cheap. Solid wire rusts, so taking it and storing it in the house is a must. Flux-core will pick up moisture like rods, so that will have to be stored in an oven as well. Cheapest way out, used rod oven.



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jdp

12-28-2005 15:48:22




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 Re: Mig or Tig to replace stick in a damp shop? in reply to chuckinnc, 12-28-2005 11:35:23  
the wire will rust on the roll in a mig welder and not feed trough very well if your shop is damp you need to find some way to move some air around and get your shop dried out for the well being of all the tools in it. a mig will work great for the welding it sounds like you will be doing



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Not much help, but

12-29-2005 13:03:15




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 Re: Mig or Tig to replace stick in a damp shop? in reply to jdp, 12-28-2005 15:48:22  
I found that a large plastic garbage bag completely wrapped around the spool and up to the feed rollers keeps the wire from rusting. Just push it around the back of the spool and make sure it can't be drawn into the rollers. After several months, so far, so good.



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Fred Zelch

12-28-2005 12:24:25




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 Re: Mig or Tig to replace stick in a damp shop? in reply to chuckinnc, 12-28-2005 11:35:23  
Rods can be dried out in the kitchen oven in about a half hour set on 200 degrees. We did it for years. Think I'd add a wood stove to the shop.



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Mike M

12-28-2005 12:13:22




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 Re: Mig or Tig to replace stick in a damp shop? in reply to chuckinnc, 12-28-2005 11:35:23  
I'd also be worried about the lathe and mill rusting up ! Heck the rods can be keep in an old fridge (hot box) with a light bulb left on to preserve them.



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