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Arc starter on a stick welder

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Itchy

12-11-2005 22:24:35




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A friend of mine has a arc starter on his stick welder.
He let me try it. First without and then with. I thought it made quit a difference....or am I just confused???




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MPK

12-13-2005 20:37:38




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 Re: Arc starter on a stick welder in reply to Itchy, 12-11-2005 22:24:35  
I had a lincoln AC welder that had a built in arc booster. It worked very well for a long time but then it quit working. After that it was very hard to start an arc. Later I got an AC-DC welder that I like much better.



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Fred OH

12-13-2005 12:53:18




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 Re: Arc starter on a stick welder in reply to Itchy, 12-11-2005 22:24:35  
The Lincoln welders had a capacitor inside that gave a small amount of extra juice for arc starting as I recall. If yours is an old welder...you might try replacing it if it has one. It would have to be the same amount of capacitance though...probably ordered from the welder manufacturer. Fred OH



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lucasss

12-13-2005 11:31:12




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 Re: Arc starter on a stick welder in reply to Itchy, 12-11-2005 22:24:35  
im at a loss to what your talkin about.... but lincoln manual says to start arc by striking like a stick match.. lucas



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Mac

12-12-2005 17:13:01




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 Re: Arc starter on a stick welder in reply to Itchy, 12-11-2005 22:24:35  
Practice dragging rod from an inch or so away toward where you want to start puddle and then just a tad high until you maintain arc. If that won't work, you have damp rods. Hot start option is nice until you have to weld without it. Then it's kinda embarrasing.



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Dick L

12-12-2005 15:55:09




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 Re: Arc starter on a stick welder in reply to Itchy, 12-11-2005 22:24:35  
I have the high frequency start on my Miller AC/ DC/ TIG machine. It has an off position with start one way and continuous the other way. When stick welding I use the continuous setting. Back in 1960 I was being instructed in pipe line welding by one of Sohio"s welding inspectors. I was having a problem starting a rod in a certian positions. The instructor took the chipping hammer and pounded all the coating off several rods. He had me practice starting bare rod untill I had the proper feel for striking the rod in all positions. He made me lay on my back under the welding sample and start bare rod. That took the rod sticking on start problem away. I only weld a few times a year any more and the high frequency takes away the need for skill. I love it.

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jerrycpp

12-12-2005 12:58:46




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 Re: Arc starter on a stick welder in reply to Itchy, 12-11-2005 22:24:35  
Marquette had an option like that many years ago. It worked great, and as I remember it, if you touched the rod you'd get an electrical tickle. I think they dropped the option in the 1960's. I don't remember what it was called.



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Ranger John

12-12-2005 10:32:52




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 Re: Arc starter on a stick welder in reply to Itchy, 12-11-2005 22:24:35  
A dry rod is a happy rod.

As mentioned in a previous post along this thread, keeping rods dry is a good thing. I keep mine in an old refrigerator heated by a single 60 watt bulb. It seems to do a decent job of keeping the rods dry but I'm wondering if anyone had a better solution to the damp rod problem.



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Itchy

12-12-2005 06:34:56




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 Re: Arc starter on a stick welder in reply to Itchy, 12-11-2005 22:24:35  
JD..I believe everyone that has welded has had trouble starting the arc the first time the rod hits the metal at sometime or another. A new cold rod or maybe the the metal is just a hair rusty,or maybe some paint here and there..I know when I set up the iron to be welded and if it is not set in sand or held in place with vise grips it will fall out of place when I touch it with the stick...this is to spot weld it first and then lay it down and put it to it. I thought it worked kind of neat. But you are probably right.

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jdemaris

12-12-2005 05:51:11




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 Re: Arc starter on a stick welder in reply to Itchy, 12-11-2005 22:24:35  
You've got me curious - but I'm not an expert. I've seen the arc-starters on TIG machines, but why would you need one for a coventional stick welder? Perhaps you're using a difficult rod? 6011 and 6013/7014 start their own arc easy enough. Low hydrogen rod, like 7018 can be real difficult unless it's either fresh out of a sealed can or it's been kept in a dryer. Once it absorbs moisture, it's hard to use. Years ago, we used several types of polarity sensitive rods, like 6010 that could be problematic with running a continuous arc unless you had DC.

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