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O/T Air In Water Lines

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geno

12-10-2005 18:16:49

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I Have Air In My Water Lines, Have A Deep Well Jet Pump, Replaced Foot Valve And Jet And All New Pipes In Well, Also New Pump And Pressure Tank,(Captive Air). Water Softener Disipates It Somwhat In House, But The Hydrants Outside Are Pretty Bad. Had Same Problem Before Replacing These Things, Any Suggestions Would Be Appreciated

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Coldiron

12-11-2005 18:37:10

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Re: O/T Air In Water Lines in reply to geno, 12-10-2005 18:16:49

geno, My guess it is a suction leak above the water level of the system. If you can determine that it is a gas mixed into the well water you could deliver it to a cistern and allow it to gas off of the water and pump it from there to your house system. It would require another pump and float plus the tank but might solve the problem if it is not a suction leak.

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Geno

12-11-2005 18:05:59

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Re: O/T Air In Water Lines in reply to geno, 12-10-2005 18:16:49

Thanks Guys, It Probably Is A Leak In Suction Pipe, Cannot Find It Near Pump, It's Strange Though, I Had It With The Old Pipes And Pump And Tank Also, It's Not A Big Problem. It's In Indiana, Maybe No Methane Gas Here? Was Wondering If A Leak In Well Casing Could Cause This? Well Is 117 Ft. Deep and 82 Ft. Pipe, In 25 Ft. Water. 1/2 PVC Vent From Well Head To Inside Basement. Thanks Again

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T_Bone

12-11-2005 12:23:07

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Re: O/T Air In Water Lines in reply to geno, 12-10-2005 18:16:49

Hi Geno,

You probably have a suction air leak. You can prove this by drawing water into a glass as the discharge pipe exits the well casing then abserve the water for air bubbles.

If no air in the water here then preform another test right after the bladder tank. If air is in the water here then your bladder in your pressure tank has a leak. The precharge air would be leaking into the water so you should also have a water logged pressure tank after a few days of run time.

If have any joints leaking, even a small amount, then you could also be sucking air into the pipe while the pump is pumping pressure.

T_Bone

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Gary Schafer

12-11-2005 19:37:36

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Re: O/T Air In Water Lines in reply to T_Bone, 12-11-2005 12:23:07

The two most common causes for air in the water are an air leak in the suction line or the pump cavitating.
Cavitation can be caused if the inlet screen is partially plugged or the pump is too big for the inlet size.
An air leak will usually show much more air than cavitation.

The bladder in the tank will have no effect on air in the water as perceived at the faucet. It takes about 6 months to a year or so for a tank to become water logged if there is no bladder, or a leak in the bladder, in the tank. The water slowly absorbs the air pressure in the tank if it is exposed to the water. You will not see it at the faucet.

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Gary

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Vern-MI

12-11-2005 04:52:25

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Re: O/T Air In Water Lines in reply to geno, 12-10-2005 18:16:49

4010 probably is correct. Is there any yellow or brown slime in the water also? Iron slime in the well water is a bacteria which will produce a gas and have the same effect.

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ricedaddy

12-10-2005 20:59:29

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Re: O/T Air In Water Lines in reply to geno, 12-10-2005 18:16:49

4010 is right on track, are you out west by chance?
Ron

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4010guy

12-10-2005 18:35:19

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Re: O/T Air In Water Lines in reply to geno, 12-10-2005 18:16:49

sounds like my old well. it had i think they called it methane gas in the well.it dident seem to hurt anything other than very anoying wen u turned on your sink it would let out a blast of air or whatever it was and splash watter all over.duz it sound like that and is it werse right away in the mornin?

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kidbob

12-11-2005 12:18:06

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Re: O/T Air In Water Lines in reply to 4010guy, 12-10-2005 18:35:19

If it is realy methane also called natural gas it oderless but very flamable BE CAREFUL.

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