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Where is the cordless market going?

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Dick2

12-10-2005 04:02:28




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The big push seems to be on 18 volts right now, with 14.4 volt close behind. For my work all I need is a 9 or 12 volt, but I'm wondering if they are going to become obsolete and batteries hard to get pretty soon? I certainly don't need all the extra weight of an 18 volt for doing woodwork.




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van robinson

12-13-2005 19:13:27




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
I work at Milwaukee Tools. We make many different corded and cordless tools. We have a 28 volt lineup of tools that include drill/drivers, sawzalls, circular saws, lights, and portable bandsaws. These are the most powerful battery powered tools on the planet today, and do not weigh as much as the 18 volt stuff. They will last 2x longer than the 18 volt tools also.



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RN

12-10-2005 15:18:52




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
Original cordless tools- drill, screwdrivers, saws still around working, check Amish. I did a small shed far away from outlet, ended up using 2 drill/drivers on roof and sides- a 6volt with 1/8" drill bit for pilot holes and 9.6 with the driver sockets. Upper limit will be a weight of unit that can be comfortably used- 18 volts now is still a one hander for most people, provides enough torque for most projects. A 30volt, 1/2" drive with a pulseing impact feature would be a upper limit for most users- this would be about the size of current 1/2" power/air drills/impact drivers now and they are 2 handed use. RN

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xragman

12-10-2005 14:07:27




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
Some day we all are gonna get tired of buying batteries. then someone will invent a way to run tools off of house current like a plug in coffee pot.



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fepo

12-12-2005 07:02:30




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to xragman, 12-10-2005 14:07:27  
your a visionary !



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deadeye

12-10-2005 10:25:12




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
For batteries go to Home and Garden and search for batteries. overstock . com



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CNKS

12-10-2005 08:44:52




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
Would someone tell me why I need cordless?? I work inside, only occasionally outside. When I put up my building I put outlets every 8 feet. I have only one cordless tool, a 12 volt 3/8 drill with one extra battery, far more torque than a 3/8 cordless one -- never have used cordless saws, etc.



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buickanddeere

12-10-2005 06:52:22




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
48V is the max considered to be intrinsically safe and use some of the class II wiring rules. Above 48V the terminals would have to be covered etc.



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JMS/MN

12-10-2005 06:42:14




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
Battery voltages climb every few years. Soon it'll be up to 110. Then we'll need cords again.



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BKahler

12-10-2005 06:32:52




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
Battery packs are rebuildable. If you have an Interstate Batteries All Battery Store in your area they can dismantle your old battery pack and replace with new batteries. Cost would probably be a little more than a new pack but you'd be getting fresh batteries that way and I'll bet they last a long time. My wife used to work in the Corporate training division of the Interstate Batteries All Battery Stores and they gave battery pack rebuilding training to all of their outlet stores. I would imagine worst case you could mail it to one of their stores for rebuilding.

Brad

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BobMo

12-10-2005 05:21:37




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
About as far as their batteries will take them.
The money to be made in these things isn't in the original sale anyway the real money is the sale of replacement batteries. You can buy a drill with 2 batteries for about the replacement price of one battery. My batteries went bad after a bout 2 years so I purchased a remanufactured unit with 2 batteries for less than the price of 1 new placement battery. After 2 years the batteries are still good. Go figure....

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Fred OH

12-10-2005 04:32:53




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Dick2, 12-10-2005 04:02:28  
My advise would be to stay with the 12 volt cordless tools and if the companies ever stop making batteries for them you could solder a couple of wires to the correct places and hook them to an old CB radio power supply and at least get some use from them. Or, build your own battery system and hang it on your belt. Not gonna be cordless this way but we lived several years without cordless. Just my thoughts. Fred OH

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Arizona Bob

12-10-2005 13:55:19




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 Re: Where is the cordless market going? in reply to Fred OH, 12-10-2005 04:32:53  
Fred,

You"re right. I have a 12 volt cordless drill that I use. I also have a 14.4 volt cordless drill with a 14 foot cord that works off a car, truck or mower battery for work in the pasture and other non electrified places. Its a handy dandy outfit cause it just keep runing and runing and runing.

Bob



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