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Jim in NC

12-08-2005 18:14:27




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I am thinking about purchasing one in the next few weeks. I am concerned about gas mileage as well as reliability. I looked at them a couple of years ago and at that time I was leaning towards a Grand Caravan. I was just wondering what experiences some of you have had with them. Thanks for your replies.




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Lumpy

12-24-2005 10:50:56




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
Don't buy a ford widstar! I had one. Bought it brand new in '99. At 66,000 miles it turned into a big money pit. I put a fuel pump, power steering pump, steering rack ( 2weeks after pump ), and reuilt tranny, all in 7 weeks time. Tranny guy at ford dealer told me he has never seen one make it past 70,000 miles, his opinion it is the worst tranny he has ever seen, especially for a ford. After sticking just about $3000.00 in it, wife wouldn't drive it anymore. Traded it in and dealer gave me $6350.00 for it. It had just turned 68,000 miles. Had it 4 yrs.

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Fred OH

12-13-2005 13:38:20




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
I noticed that there were a lot of comments about the Chrysler type mini vans and nobody mentioned ever changing the spark plugs...well, I tried it too and probably changed three just like you did.
But a former girlfriend had one that really got the miles put on it and it held up well. I know a fellow that has bought several of the chevy vehicles with the 4.3 V6 engine and it doesn"t bother him if it has 120/140 thousand miles on it. He could run them 4/5 thousand miles and the dipstick would only be down qn eighth of an inch. I don"t know anything about the rest of "em. Fred OH

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RayP(MI)

12-10-2005 18:12:30




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
If you want to go something slightly older, we have had a couple of GM's plastic minivans - a Lumina APV and a Sihoulette. Both were excellent performers. 20+ mpg, each seat was individually removable, which meant great seating/haulung flexibility. Were excellent in bad road conditions. Retired the Lumina at 225,00 miles, and last I heard it was still on the road. Olds is providing daughter transportation right now. Pontiac Transport is third of the set.

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TomTX

12-10-2005 09:43:21




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
Honda Odessey



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mechman

12-09-2005 20:12:45




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
just as i thought! i have worked on a few of the caravans and they are usually problematic. had a 93 grand caravan that blew the transaxle gears right through the pan. consider buying something along the lines of an import van. i almost never see them in the shop. bad for me, good for you. hope all goes well!!



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buickanddeere

12-09-2005 08:41:51




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
Astro or Safari in AWD with the HD touring suspension. I swore I would never drive a FWD sh*t box van.It's like a man wearing a dress, gets the job done but you cannot have any self respect. At least this Astro AWD is a little truck at heart. It has a real truck engine,trans, drive train and suspension. It's not an extended FWD car with a raised roof.



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bradk

12-09-2005 05:45:50




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
My blood runs GM,but I wouldn't have a GM mini-van.I work on way too many in my repair shop.I drive a 96 Town&Country.A little hard on gas w/the 3.8 at 17mpg,but no other complaints.I do get the occasional Chrysler 604 trans job w/ final-drive pin that broke the case,but no car makers produce a good trans anymore.~brad



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Mike M

12-09-2005 05:44:16




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
Bought a new plymouth voyager in 1999 it now ha around 90,000 miles on it 4 cyl. engine only problems so far were the head gasket leaked oil to the outside around 50,000 mi. and the left rear wheel well is rusting out.

I'd say with complete confidence to buy a Honda Odessey. Dad had one and loved it ,but it wouldn't go up his drive in the winter so he traded it on a Pilot another great vechicle.I would of bought a Honda but price wise they were out of my reach.

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Bill in IN

12-09-2005 05:27:59




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
Had a 97 Grand and traded it on a 05. Both were bought new. 97 had a 3.0L the 05 a 3.8. gas mileage on the 97 was 21 with 25-27 on trips. The 05 averages about 21 but on a recent 100 mi trip it clocked 32 on the computer (I was stretching it for all it was worth, no cruise control and 55 on the highway).

Change oxygen sensor on 97, no problems at all on 05.



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

12-09-2005 05:00:39




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
One time while helping a friend wire his late model Chrysler minivan for a trailer I pulled off the left rear light to make a splice. To my astonishment the interior of the whole cavity back there was covered with rust. They must have assembled the thing from bare metal and painted the outside later.

This was a van which would have rated "clean" on a dealer's lot.



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Slofr8

12-09-2005 04:28:39




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
In '02 we bought a '99 Grand Caravan with 30,000 miles. At 36,000 we were replaceing the trany. Crystler came good for it. Labor and all. (Father in law was a dealer). In spite of that it has been a good vehical for the wife and kids. Only gets about 16-17 MPG. but it's the all wheel drive.
dan.



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dieselade

12-09-2005 03:55:19




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
my only suggestion is that the chrysler/dodge vans with the 3.3 engine has the e85 ethanol option. it is called flex fuel. but for some idiotic reason, it is not available for 05/06. my 02 caravan has been flawless and runs 22/23 mpg on the computer all the time with the 3.3 engine.



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ErnieDD

12-08-2005 18:41:39




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
Had two Caravan, 89 Grand and 93 Caravan.

Now have two Ventures, a 98 and a 05. The 98 had intake gasket problems and just recently blew head gasket at 125K. The 98 got a new fuel pump ($450 for the pump) at 70K. On the cyl hd gasket repair the bores had zero wear. Used valvoline 2-30 at 3-3500 mi. Just converted all the outfits to amsoil. Gets 26 mpg on the trip computer on trips with Amsoil syn in engine and transmission.

The 05 ate the inner brake pads at 16K, dealer said they are getting many inner pad failures. It gets 19 mpg around town on the computer, have yet to take it on a long trip. Still got factory fill on transmission, just converted to amsoil on engine. Dealer said GM got the gasket problems fixed.

I personally enjoy driving the Venture much better than the Chrysler product, it does not wander near much. The Ventures have air suspension which gives a consistent ride height at a variety of loads. We also got the individual seats which lets us go from cargo to people easily. Drivers seat is 6 way adjust. 26 gallon gas tank will make you want to stop before it has to.

Crossed South Dakota in 2000 when it was 113 outside, temperature needle did not budge, even with the air conditioning full on. Anything other than changing the fluids is a chore, the body is poured around the engine. The battery is not a big deal, the cross brace comes right off.

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ustabfarmer

12-08-2005 18:36:19




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-08-2005 18:14:27  
Hey, how ya'll doin'. We bought a used 1996 Caravan that had about 49K. We bought in '99 and have 160,000 mi on it now and have not had to do much to it. It has been an absolute dream. The wife likes it too much to trade it for another newer one. Good for her!!



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Jim in NC

12-09-2005 06:15:05




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to ustabfarmer, 12-08-2005 18:36:19  
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. I often need something like this to haul our dogs with us on trips as well as our other stuff. I could also use it in the summer with my produce. Even though we have a diesel, 3/4 ton 4x4, we don't always need that much vehicle. Hey ustabfarmer, you by any chance grow or grew tobacco. I have probably retired. I am waiting for contract proposals before making a final decision.

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Johnbob

12-09-2005 14:35:37




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 Re: Ideas on used minivans in reply to Jim in NC, 12-09-2005 06:15:05  
Had 86 Caravan had almost 200,000 when I sold it with very few problems.Have 93 now with 142,000 and still going.It uses about a quartof oil to a change.Used vans are not worth much when they get that many miles on them so I will run it till it dies.



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